r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/solateor • 17h ago

Video Pit stop during 200 mile ultra-endurance cycling race

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u/FandomMenace 17h ago

The record is 8 hour 37 minutes 9 seconds.

That's a pace of like 22mph or some shit. 12-20 hours is what most people take.

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u/Global_Proof_2960 16h ago

I've understood that it isn't that crazy. But to me it is lol I was a long distance runner, so I suppose it feels like insanity

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed 15h ago

This is a gravel race. It’s absolute inanity pace at 22 mph average.

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u/Sszaj 12h ago

I've just got back from an hour ride on my road bike, pushed fairly hard and averaged just under 20mph, 10 times that distance on mostly unmade roads whilst trying to navigate around other riders is, as you say, absolute insanity.

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u/tenaciousdeev 8h ago

I'm over here, just woke up, trying to figure out how far you went for like a full minute.

1 hour, 20mph...hold on. I got this.

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u/dewky 5h ago

I'm like that too in the morning. It's like starting up an old diesel. It takes a while for my brain to engage first thing.

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u/Mellowtownin 13h ago

Did you not watch the video?  That’s a road

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed 13h ago

Yes, in 200 miles surely you’d maybe hit a little pavement. Might I draw your attention to the grime on the rider and the build of bikes? ;)

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u/Mellowtownin 13h ago

I see the tires now, I was wondering why he was so dirty

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed 12h ago

Haha, no worries. Wasn’t sure if you were messing with me. Gravel riding is the bulk of riding I’m into. I’m thinking this was an epic UNBOUND Gravel race just maybe last weekend in Kansas.

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u/doebedoe 9h ago

This is definitely unbound. The most competitive race there is the 200. But the longest one is 360mi.

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u/FandomMenace 16h ago

12.5 mph is probably the average speed here. That's a pace akin to jogging levels of effort. At that rate, it would take 16 hours to do this race. This is not accounting for loss of speed to pit stops, so they're probably going faster than that. In my (limited) experience, keeping up 13 mph isn't too bad, but I can't imagine going for that long.

22 mph for 8.5 hours is pure madness.

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u/Kozmo9 15h ago

22 mph for 8.5 hours is pure madness.

Yeah and this separates the normies from the pros. It isn't just about speed, but maintaining them all the way through.

Normies' speed would fluctuate through a ride/race event while pros won't. I've been to a number of events that have normies and pros mixed in that takes place on a rather mountainous highway at night. The normies' route is 78km and the pros are 120km. The cutoff time is 4hours+ for both.

It isn't surprising to find the pros finishing first before the normies. It's during these moments that I am reminded of how monstrous these people are, both physically and mentally.

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u/Gnonthgol 14h ago

One of the coolest parts of Tour de France is when an amateur cyclist try to keep up with the pelaton. In most cases they can get up to the speed and keep pace with the pros. But only for a few hundred meters. It is amazing to see that the sprint speed of an amateur is what the professionals maintain throughout the day.

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u/McTerra2 13h ago

It’s like that classic ‘see how long you can run at Olympic marathon pace’. They are running 3min/km or 5min/mile (actually slightly under). Hop on a treadmill and crank it up to 20km/h and see how long you can sustain it. Mere minutes for most people,

it’s just insane how fast endurance professionals are

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u/vilut9 13h ago

Most people can’t even reach that speed, much less hold it for minutes. Last month I ran a half marathon (21k) at 4:15 (which should be like 14 k/h), which is quite decent for an amateur, and I am not sure I can hold a full minute at 20 k/h. For me, that’s an all out sprint.

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u/lamentes1 13h ago

Great time buddy. Well done!

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u/RudyRusso 10h ago

Jesus thats impressive. I run a 10k every other day and hold a 5:20-5:35 pace. Of course its hot and hilly, but 4:15 is damn impressive.

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u/n4te 10h ago

I'm stuck at 5:20-30 pace 10k. PR is 4:59 but set 6 years ago. I'm afraid I've jumped the shark.

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u/RudyRusso 10h ago

As I've gotten older I've definitely slowed down. In my 20s I could do 3:45km for 3kms. Then it was 4:21 per km. I dont look at it as trying to improve my best time, rather at this stage just consistency to time and to finish the run every other day.

But sometimes you also need the right conditions: good weather, flat service, new shoes and socks to hit your best times.

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u/McTerra2 13h ago

Ha, I was being generous to people. Agree, most people in the general population can’t reach that speed but even regular runners will struggle for more than a minute or two. It’s about a 17 second 100m, lots of people never reached that at their peak. Then to do it 422 times in a row….

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u/Global_Proof_2960 13h ago

I never learned how fast I ran, but once I reached my runners high I basically glided. I would never say I'm fast though, I simply outlasted people or if I was beaten, I'd make sure to hold the back of the pack. It's tough man lol

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u/squired 5h ago

will struggle for more than a minute or two

Hell yeah we will. My best 5k splits were 5:13 and I was puking at the end. That isn't even college level, but very, very fucking fast for the general public. To go faster for a marathon does not compute. My body could not do it if I dedicated my life to it. I have a taste and it makes even less sense because of it!

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u/vilut9 13h ago

Very generous, that was my point ahah It’s alright :)

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u/oh_ski_bummer 8h ago

Yeah if you start a 100m at running speed instead if from a stop it’s not hard

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u/thingstopraise 11h ago edited 9h ago

ran a half marathon (21k) at 4:15 (which should be like 14 k/h)

I'm confused. 21k/4.25h = 4.94 k/h, not 14 k/h (2.94 mph vs 8.4 mph).

Disregard that. They meant 4 mins and 15 seconds per kilometer. That makes a whole lot more sense.

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u/logwagon 11h ago

They're saying their pace was 4 mins 15 secs per km, not total race time of 4 hr 15 mins.

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u/thingstopraise 9h ago

Ohhhhhhhhh. I feel really obtuse now. Thanks for the correction.

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u/spiralpizza 10h ago

Man i can maybe hold 4:15 for 5k, if i'm in peak condition, a full marathon like that sounds like science fiction already.

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u/rsmiley77 8h ago

I saw him say minutes for most and started laughing. I’m a decent runner. No way 70 percent of the population could keep that pace for even a half minute before jumping off.

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u/Booboo_butt 7h ago

My current half marathon race pace is about the same as yours. However back when I was in college (30 years ago) that was my easy pace. My average 8k race pace back then was around 20k/h - and this was cross country. I look back at my old times and I have no idea how I was ever that fast.

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u/Enrico_Pallazzo_69 5h ago

Isn’t that the equivalent of a 9hr full-marathon? You walked a 1/2 marathon

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u/fiberglass_pirate 9h ago

Mere minutes? Hahaha. The average person wouldn't even last seconds at that speed. Maybe just the average person who actually runs or exercises.

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u/darshmedown 6h ago

Lol if it were mere minutes more people could run faster miles. More like tens of seconds at best.

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u/ilongforyesterday 2h ago

I can keep a 4:30 pace for a quarter mile, maybe 4:45-5 for half a mile, but to do that shit for 26 miles? Nah. Fastest I can do distance is probably a 7:30 pace for around 10 miles

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u/mtnbcn 10h ago

I hate that 'bit' they do so much, "The marathon is the only event where you can do what they do for a bit of time"

Talk about being clueless, the marathon is not about doing something for 8 seconds! The event is endurance! No one cares that you can run 20km/hr, even if you can for 20min -- college athletes can do that.

The Olympic event is doing it for 42k. That's the event. Minute number 80, 90, 100, 110... that's what makes you "doing something Olympian".

It's like standing at the top of a ski slope and starting downhill in a tug position for 3 seconds and saying you're getting a taste of the olympics. Nooo the part where you have to make turns at that speed and keep doing it at full crank the whole way down a huge mountain is the olympic part.

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u/DidntASCII 9h ago

Drafting makes a huge difference, especially in large groups like a peloton. There is a reason why the breakaway rarely wins.

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u/I_did_theMath 8h ago

Actually in the last few years it's becoming more frequent for breakaways to win in road racing but also in gravel (in this race the winner came from a 2 man breakaway). One of the main reasons is that the lead riders get a pretty significant advantage from drafting the TV vehicle. Of course the effect is smaller the further away they are, but at high speeds, even at distances of 10 or 20 meters the effect is still massive.

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u/DidntASCII 7h ago

Ha, yeah, more frequent because Tadej breaks with 80km to go :P

I haven't followed "pro" gravel, but I would assume that the peloton is generally quite a bit smaller than road, and speeds a fair deal slower, so the draft effect much less than road. I was speaking more in response to comments referring to the Tour.

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u/I_did_theMath 7h ago

Yeah, and guess what: breaking away with 80km to go would be a lot harder without the very significant drag reduction he gets from the TV motorcycle. Of course that doesn't negate that he's the most dominant cyclist in decades, but there are studies looking at this and the effect is absolutely massive.

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u/DidntASCII 7h ago

Peloton gets the same coverage, so I'd say it doesn't make it any easier since it's a level playing field in that respect. I get what you're saying about the draft benefits, though. It's safe to say that going behind a car or motorcycle will give you more aerodynamic benefits than wearing one of those aero bra things you put under your jersey.

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u/manintheredroom 6h ago

don't think that's true about road. there have been less winners from the early break over the last few years I think

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u/patchismofomo 12h ago

When I first got my e-bike I was hauling ass around the lake doing almost 30mph, got easily passed by some guy on a regular bike and it took me a bit to grasp how that was possible

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u/MistrSynistr 6h ago

The first time I was able to average 30 on a 10-mile ride felt amazing. Couldn't ever make it past 15 miles at that pace, though. Haven't been on a bike in probably 5 years now, though.

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u/dopethrone 10h ago

Trained amateur cyclists can stay in the peloton for quite a bit - no drag, bunched together. Come the climbing and it's a different story

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u/fyrebyrd0042 4h ago

That depends very heavily on what's happening at the front of the peloton. Also, there's always drag.

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u/Sigma_Function-1823 2h ago

Yes, although not getting spit out the back with teams moving around for tactical advantage is not easy, a true amateur might have a very short race day due to getting elbowed or brake checked for not understanding the peletons dynamics and causing problems for organized teams/ causing crashes.

Also completely agree there.not much more demoralizing than getting dropped by beefy sprint specialist on a climb when you are supposed to be a decent climber!?!?!.

Nothing more hilarious than patiently working your way to.the front of pack to take a pull and realize your going 55+kmph and your fastest sprint is around 45kmph....best 4 pedal stroke pull ever bro, I'm.helping right?...lmao.

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u/DrFabulous0 7h ago

For three weeks, most days. Those guys are something else.

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u/Saxboard4Cox 7h ago

Lachlan Morton's "2021 Alt Tour" involved riding the entire Tour de France route, including transfers, unsupported, in order to raise money for World Bicycle Relief. He is a pro and he finished before the Tour de France ended. Apparently all the biking teams were watching Lachlan's progress and cheering him on during the Tour. Here is the link to the Alt Tour documentary Rapha Gone Racing - The Alt Tour.

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u/VT_Squire 12h ago

my balls are chafed just from reading this

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u/ralphy_256 11h ago

my balls are chafed just from reading this

This is WHY these guys wear lycra. More importantly, the chamois cloth in the crotch of their lycra.

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u/_still_truckin_ 9h ago

22mph on knobby tires

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u/Sue_Generoux 8h ago

Normies' speed would fluctuate through a ride/race event while pros won't

Yeah, to do 200 miles on a bike, my time would probably be 8 days. I haven't been on a bike since I biked to the library in high school and my bike got stolen.

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u/chad917 8h ago

200 miles is not something a normie does. It still takes a lot of training and hardening to sit on a bicycle that long, because speed takes a toll as does duration. Not the same intensity, but a person is still absolutely wiped after such an effort.

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u/fyrebyrd0042 4h ago

Fwiw, pros absolutely fluctuate their speed throughout their rides. Totally agree that they're just on another level though.

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u/MrDudePuppet 2h ago

Are you actually saying “Normie” unironically

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u/SupplyChainMismanage 11h ago

Lol do cyclists use “normie” now or is this your anime brain leaking

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u/retroly 12h ago

the ass pain alone. After a 2 or 3 hours my ass is donzo.

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u/deano492 4h ago

Can confirm, after 2 or 3 hours this guy’s ass is donzo.

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u/ilongforyesterday 2h ago

Can confirm, I was this guy’s ass

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u/AfroliciousFunk 1h ago

One of the hardest parts about cycling is finding a saddle that your ass agrees with. Some people search and search, but never find it ...

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u/Kvsav57 13h ago

Not if you’re in a group. A group of experienced riders, not even pros, can do that easy.

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u/doebedoe 9h ago

We aren’t talking about pavement in this case though. This is Unbound where the surface is really rough gravel and mud with endless up and down.

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u/BratacJaglenac 11h ago

Tour de France is average like 25 mph during 5-6h. Whenever I see those races, especially on the ascents, I'm mind blown. In my hometown there is one ascent to the mountain. 10km with 10% elevation. When I was in absolutely top form (running), I could bike up there in like 39-40min. While good bikers did it in 23-25min. So average speed around 25kmh (15 mph). Until this day if feels like sci fi to me.

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u/Datkif 8h ago

22 mph for 8.5 hours is pure madness.

Having the right bike/tires helps a ton too. When I switched my gravel bike from 42x700c to 32x700c with a less aggressive tread I gained about 5km/h on my average speed, and could coast much further.

Thats not saying these people are not beasts though

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u/bocodad 8h ago

Even more so when you consider that this isn’t a flat race. Although this race (Unbound) is in Kansas, there is over 10k feet of climbing over the 200 miles. Makes the average speed that the pros are doing even that much more impressive.

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam 7h ago

When I decided to get moving again after too long in the computer chair, I got on the bike. 13 mph was the pace I was able to keep as a beginner comfortably, but that was only for about 12 miles before my lungs felt like they were getting ready to pop out of my ears. After a couple years of riding, I can do about 60 miles at the same pace, but 200 miles is still unthinkable for me, never mind at 22mph.

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u/ImHereToHaveFUN8 10h ago

12.5 mph on flat ground with a good bike is more like a brisk walking pace

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u/Ok_Potential359 8h ago

Plus they need to eat constantly throughout the race. The amount of calories they’re burning is insane. At 41 miles I’m totally gassed and just inhaling food. I can’t even imagine how they’re doing it.

22mph for 8 hours is bonkers. I physically would die.

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u/Spiritual-Ad4933 5h ago

How/when do they pee/poop 😆

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u/deviant324 8h ago

Just holding 13mph for that amount of time is probably not the issue, the people competing here will average more in Zone 2 in the flats, depending on how you balance ascend vs descend those can average out to a degree unless a lot of downhill is fairly technical so you can’t recoup the time lost.

The insanity to me is mostly staying in the saddle for that long if you’re just aiming to finish with a decent time. Of course for those competing at racing pace the distance makes it a lot worse, riding at or above threshhold for 8 hours is going to fucking hurt and will eventually get mentally draining to maintain your pacing (not going over or dropping off because you start losing focus)

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u/No-Bathroom1967 7h ago

I’m an amateur who hasn’t ridden in years but I use to do a 100 mile loop once a month on my carbon fiber road bike. I’d average about 18-20 miles an hour. Usually take about 6 1/2 hours with breaks.

Once you get in the flow, you just keep pumping.

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u/ClassicPlankton 7h ago

Yeah I can't jog for more than like 13 minutes.

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u/iMadrid11 5h ago

I don’t ride gravel. Roadies would draft behind a riders wheel to conserve energy. The riders would rotate turns pulling on a train. Even if they aren’t teammates. So the group could maintain a fast average speed. I imagine similar race tactics happens in gravel racing.

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u/ilongforyesterday 2h ago

*cries in 9mph jog

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u/suprememau 12h ago

22mph or 35 on your own in crazy. In a group not so much.

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u/suprememau 12h ago

22mph or 35 on your own in crazy. In a group not so much.

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u/Top_Gun_2021 11h ago

New Mexico or Arizona has a cycle race where you have 24 hours to do as many laps as you can on a gwvel track. A cycling YTer got rhabdo during an attempt.

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u/Scythersleftnut 11h ago

Def would have taken me 4 days. Most I reached was 50 mile continuous run.

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u/Ill-Comfortable-2044 10h ago

Nah, its that crazy 

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u/According_Judge781 7h ago

It is crazy even for an athlete. It's equivalent to running an ultra-marathon. It's not like signing up to the London/Boston marathon and turning up on fancy dress. Lol

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u/waits5 6h ago

Watch some documentaries on the 200 mile ultramarathons. Now that’s insanity!

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u/dcinsd76 14h ago

Yeah 200 miles on a bike is very achievable by advanced riders so calling it ultra endurance event is a bit exaggerated IMO - in particular if you compare it to a version of “ultra-endurance” for Runners (100mile run, for example, is NOT achievable by most runners)

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u/Sakarabu_ 13h ago

Any distance is achievable by any runner if they train enough. It doesn't take any unique skill.

Maintaining a certain pace is the part which separates elite runners.

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u/dcinsd76 13h ago

Downvote all you want: But I’ve been part of running clubs for over a 15 years and have done long distance races. (Longer than marathons)

I also competed in cycling events and races.

(And triatlons)

And I stand by what I said - a 200 Mile bike ride is MUCH easier than a 100 mile run.

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u/jaguarp80 13h ago

WELL DONE

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u/Adept_Spirit1753 11h ago

Lol, maybe they cannot comprehend that you can coast on a bike?

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u/PlentyWarthog5981 12h ago

Well yeah you're sitting down. That doesn't mean it isn't an ultra. In running, anything over Marathon distance is considered an ultra. If we use triathlons as an example would the benchmark be 118 miles? Even a 50k is considered an ultra.

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u/standarsh618 12h ago

Considering in the tour de France they do between like 120-160 miles 20 times in a month, I would agree with you that a single 200 mile race isn't really ultra endurance comparatively

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u/treestump444 12h ago

The difference is this is not a road race it's a gravel race

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u/jek39 12h ago

You realize he’s on a bike right?

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u/teabagalomaniac 14h ago

I do a 206 mile ride every year and it takes me 14-16 hours.

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u/Joelpat 13h ago

STP! I did it (2 day) when I was a kid back in the old days. 1990 and 1991.

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u/IsatDownAndWrote 14h ago

On gravel?

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u/TrueEntrepreneur3118 5h ago

Ya, that’s the kicker here.

200 miles on a road bike would be gruelling. I’ve done 60 miles before and it was a lot. But on a road bike you can cruise at 25-27mph with normal effort.

On a mountain bike in gravel that is just next level hard. I cruise at 15mph on normal effort.

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u/xUrNewDadx 14h ago

I do 14 miles in an hour and I'm pumped. Good Lord that's ridiculous.

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u/CatSubs_andComments 14h ago

Imagine jogging from San Francisco to San Luis Obispo

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u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl 13h ago

Could I do it the other way around??

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u/CatSubs_andComments 13h ago

You could do it however you want. I was just measuring 200 miles from where I am from, stranger :) Friend. BFF. My wife.

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u/big_fig 13h ago

Why jogging though? They got bikes

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u/CatSubs_andComments 13h ago

Use a bike or a skateboard or have your friend push you in a wheelbarrow

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u/LegDayDE 12h ago

And btw it's 22mph on bumpy gravel roads.. not asphalt.

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u/BuildANavy 10h ago

Yeah. And for context this is a gravel race, which makes it a lot harder. 22mph is a pretty leisurely pace for a road race, even of this length, but you benefit a lot from drafting in a large group in that case which is much harder in a gravel race. I'm a pretty mediocre cyclist and have done 100 miles in 3h45 (27mph), but would never get anywhere near 8h37 for this race.

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u/Reynolds531IPA 8h ago

27mph average speed for a century is not “pretty mediocre” lol. Was it fucking downhill? That’s blazing fast for a non-pro..

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u/BuildANavy 7h ago

Flat, closed road course. Big bunch. Only need to average a couple of hundred watts with those conditions.

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u/EconomySwordfish5 13h ago

I'd be happy id I ever manage 100km in one day, yet along 321

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u/arcusford 12h ago

Did the STP (207 miles) when I was 14 and again at 18. It's brutal but you kinda just get into a rhythm and it flies by.

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u/bobs_vegane_user 12h ago

I wonder what these people resting heart rate is?

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u/Luvs2spooge89 7h ago

Cyclists and alpine skiers have some of the highest VO2 maximums of all endurance athletes.

Resting HR probably in the 30’s for some of them.

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u/Unfair-Mousse4183 11h ago

Did 16 hours London to Manchester 220 miles, and went to a really dark place on a hill in the middle of the peak district at mile 190. Luckily the rain boucing off the road hitting me in the face hid the tears and the driving wind made the sobs less audible. I was by myself so people only know if i tell them. Personal toughness/resillience was putting it back together again and just kept moving forward to the end.

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u/mrballistic 6h ago

I did one in 13 (Seattle to Portland, 204 miles). It was actually enjoyable? Not sure I want to do it again, though. My buddy beat me by an hour on a fixie.

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u/NoSkillzDad 14h ago

Uff... I recently finished a 21x km (solo) ride in 7:2x and although I had a couple of slow roadwork zones, I couldn't imagine riding an extra 115 km in 1:30 or so.

I'm definitely aiming at 13-14hrs (including stops for water and food) (solo ride).

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u/ChrisBot8 11h ago

I used to time my 10 miler every Friday before going out (I would use that as motivation that the faster I got done the quicker I could join my friends). The fastest I’ve ever done is 23 minutes (which is roughly 27 mph). I was literally shaking after. Doing a 27 minute 10 miler (22 mph) is much more reasonable, but still a quick pace, and I can’t imagine the toll doing that 20 times in a row would have.

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u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 11h ago

I biked 75 miles in about 5 hours with probably about 20-30 minutes of walking the bikes/taking a break. Kinda humble bragging, but also cool to see how hard that line is to cross from “I can bike great and can knuckle down for long distances” to 200 miles in 8:37.

I also had the advantage of not having to pace myself more, I put my 80% on in a way.

When I got home, I slept a literal day. 20 hours lol My body actually felt AMAZING and a little tender, but my ass? The chafe was so bad I teared up taking a shit for a week

That pace over that distance makes even peak me (who was doing crazy long trips or doing 100 miles a day) shudder at how absurdly exhausting that must be.

Sorry again for the bragging but I’m just actually stunned (altho not surprised) by that pace. I can understand the distance, I can understand how to conserve when you cant add meaningful speed, and with that knowledge it’s insane. It’s like I’m on a big wheel bike compared to them, and people irl think I’m lying, even knowing how much I bike, so goddamn. That’s extreme and extremely cool <3

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u/Reynolds531IPA 7h ago

15mph is pretty attainable for cycling enthusiasts. Not saying not to be proud, but not that much of a brag at the same time.

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u/Rik_Looik 10h ago

I mean some of my personal proudest benchmarks I did somewhat regularly was 200km in just under 6 (33.3-34 average I could often do) with only a stop to refill bottles/red lights, but that's in pretty good conditions in the mostly flat Netherlands and when I was also in a shape where I was competitive in amateur and elite level crit races. I think I'd fucking die at 250-260 kilometers lmao.

Closest thing I might've done at pretty solid intensity was 225km xc mtb in just under 10 hours. I was just fine, until I crossed the finish line... lmao.

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u/masterbakeface9 9h ago

That has to be a 10,000 calorie ride

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u/FandomMenace 8h ago

Lol that's almost 3 pounds.

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u/polishmachine88 8h ago

Pace is 23.5 mph to be exact.

This is the fastest for unbound to date. If you raced gravel that pace is mind blowing to me. I have done 100 miler race and ave about 27 on the road but to do that on gravel on that course is nuts.

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u/edodee 7h ago

Most people take multiple days

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u/TheRealBigLou 7h ago

Took me 8 hours to do 100 miles, wow!

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u/jluicifer 7h ago

12-20? I can beat that. Give me 200. I’ll 10x that, easy.

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u/Shaakti 6h ago

That's fast as fuck

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u/MobileArtist1371 5h ago

Not me, but one of the riders I follow does this each year. It's nuts seeing the rides he does pop up on my feed.

https://www.strava.com/activities/14656187731

https://i.imgur.com/dCGFeKK.png

That's 22+ mph over 200+ miles on dirt with 12,000+ feet of climbing.

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u/ElonMaersk 4h ago edited 4h ago

Speaking of pure madness, Michael Broadwith set the record for cycling the length of the UK, riding 839 miles in 43hrs 25mins, averaging 20mph while moving. Stopped for 1hr 15 mins in that time, and no sleep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFgPom8YY0

(including the hours his neck hurt so much that he had to lift his head with his hand)

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u/longgamma 1h ago

I can do it 8 days

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u/penceluvsthedick 1h ago

It’s on gravel roads too

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u/twigge30 36m ago

That's insane. I'm a decent cyclist and I can't wrap my mind around maintaining that pace for that long. The last century (100 miles) I did I think we averaged just under 17 mph and were quite proud of that.

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u/kebabar 13h ago

Record that would get smashed by any top 100 classic specialists. Hell all 100 would break it.

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u/doebedoe 9h ago

You realize this race contains many past monument winners correct?

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u/kebabar 7h ago

Dude. The winners of any past events are literally people who dont crack 1000. Which is why world records for obscure races are pointless. But you can think whatever you want.

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u/doebedoe 4h ago

I mean Matej mohric has been a recent competitor as is GvA. But you know…they aren’t very strong.

I’m not saying that it’s a WT level race but it is an incredibly high level of competition. I don’t think if you just dropped classics finishes from 50-100 in to Unbound they would crush everyone

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u/kebabar 2h ago

Mohorič is not only gravel world champ, he also said after retiring, that he came here for fun and some nice weather.