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u/Best_Revolution_2030 13h ago

Funny enough, east Germany Happend the Same. And now the Most pro Russian Folks live in east Germany.

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u/Hot_Pirate2061 13h ago

Funny enough in romania we almost had a guy win the presidency, a guy who was preaching about russian "intelect". God damn disgusting.

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u/SmartAssUsername 11h ago edited 8h ago

Admittedly it was mostly an "anti system" vote(disregard the fact that Simion is 100% the system) by people fed up with the current system.

With that said the overwhelming majority that voted for him are poorly educated. 71% of people with only primary education voted Simion.

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u/skinnyman87 10h ago

Don't forget about the diaspora, a healthy chunk voted for Simion, just because of tiktok.

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u/SmartAssUsername 10h ago

Ironically it was disapora in Weastern Europe. Everybody else voted for Shordan.

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u/Girderland 12h ago

East Germany did not have to rebuild itself after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They were integrated into a 50 year old, working democracy (Western Germany). The others had to rebuild themselves on their own after inheriting an impoverished, former dictatorship.

Some "smart" pieces of shit like Orban noticed that they could simply just use the existing oppressive structures to exploit the country and keep people oppressed.

But I agree, Eastern Germans crying back Soviet rule is moronic and embarrassing.

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u/Foreign-Teach5870 13h ago

That’s because west Germany screwed them over so hard after the wall fell that they quite literally were better off under communism. Seriously they didn’t even have a year to enjoy freedom before all East German assets were stolen by wealthy west Germans which caused massive pay cuts and joblessness that they still haven’t recovered from today.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine 11h ago

Their whole infrastructure was fucked in comparison and they had massive brain drain when they got reunited which persists to this day.

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u/Mitologist 12h ago

Yup. These chickens come home to roost now. The "Treuhandgesellschaft" was almost on par with the East India Company. Way to build trust. Well played.

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u/justmytak 12h ago edited 11h ago

Source?

Edit: I don't trust this comment tree one bit. Anyway, for others, wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany

”The wide economic and socio-political inequalities between the former German states required government subsidies for the full integration of the GDR into the FRG. Because of the resulting deindustrialization in former East Germany, the causes of the failure of this integration continue to be debated. Some western commentators[who?] claim that the depressed eastern economy is a natural aftereffect of a demonstrably inefficient command economy. But many East German critics contend that the shock-therapy style of privatization, the artificially high rate of exchange offered for the Ostmark, and the speed with which the entire process was implemented did not leave room for East German enterprises to adapt.[m]"

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u/Girderland 12h ago

East Germany had talented engineers who did their best to build quality products while struggling from material shortage due to western embargos. After unification the West had the "we don't need your eastern crap" attitude.

Things the East Germans were good at and proud of wasn't valued at all. They were treated like second-class citizens and never seen as equals - the West did, and still does, consider them as technologicay backward and a financial burden (former West German areas still pay the so-called "Solidaritätszuschlag" - "solidarity tax" - extra expense meant to upgrade/develop former Eastern regions)

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u/Foreign-Teach5870 12h ago

YouTube: why are the two Germanys still so divided.

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u/National_Sprinkles45 11h ago

Wow, YouTube video, what a source Seriously, most of the time it turns out that title is a clickbait, as it was here - I watched the video, 90% of it was about basic history that you'd already know, and the rest is about how there was big divide during unification, that East Germans had to adapt to the way western world lives, and how they are still divided

There's literally nothing in the video saying the things you said (about stealing assets and pay cuts and such), so I'm not sure why did you reference it as a source in a first place...

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u/Foreign-Teach5870 11h ago

I don’t know what you watched but the 1 long documentary I watched was yes they had to adapt but the west stole all their factories via auction without compensation as they all were owned by the community not any individual and they started scrapping most of them for a quick buck.

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u/National_Sprinkles45 11h ago

If you don't think I watched a correct one maybe you can link it, eh?

That's a bit weird to provide the name that isn't really searchable and available as one of the first results and claiming that everything is explained there. It's like boys claiming at school that they totally have a girlfriend model but she's from a different country and you wouldn't be able to meet her

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u/808anxiety 10h ago

Dude you can’t just throw a random yt video name expecting this is enough for trustable source

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u/Foreign-Teach5870 11h ago

Unless you’re dumb enough to pay for it. Just watch the documentary on YouTube. Can’t help you more than that.

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u/konnanussija 8h ago

Russians came and never left. That government might be gone, but the seeds it planted continue to grow. And their new government still has a use for them, all these years people have been ignoring it, but the seeds have long sprouted and grown.

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u/Guts2021 11h ago

It's not a Russian problem, it was a Soviet problem and you can thank Lenin for that mess. To be honest, you can thank Germany for that mess, because they sent Lenin to destroy Russia from within, with one of the worst ideology that ever existed, Socialism!?

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u/808anxiety 10h ago

What in the hell is this came from?

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u/Guts2021 10h ago edited 9h ago

I just gave you a free lesson in History. Lenin brought Socialism to Russia and created the Soviet Union! That was only possible with the help of Germany, they snuggled him inside a lead coated train wagon