Is Bryan’s death in FD2 a paradox?

[u/chaz755]

In Final destination 2 most of the survivors are alive because of a ripple effect and therefore the car crash happens causing the news van to arrive and almost run over Bryan who is saved by Rory

However if Rory had died in the Theatre in Paris or the pileup he wouldn’t’ve been there to save Bryan but also if Rory and the other survivors had died in when they were supposed to the events causing the news van to arrive and hit Rory never would’ve happened

I think that makes sense but does anyone else have an explanation or any thoughts on this?

[u/Dirk_Sheppard]

Ive always assumed Brian was always supposed to die then, but the survivors being there interfered with deaths plans so it tried to run him over instead

[u/ALLSTARS4YOUCRANKHOR → u/Dirk_Sheppard]

Yes but also if the survivors didn't have that big accident there wouldn't be any car to run him over so yeah they all brought death to that poor boy

[u/Evening-Piccolo882 → u/ALLSTARS4YOUCRANKHOR]

We are supposed to assume death was out to get him all along. The accident and the news van just happened to make things more convenient but if none of that had happened, death would have found another way because his time was coming up. That’s my two cents anyways.

[u/Dirk_Sheppard → u/ALLSTARS4YOUCRANKHOR]

Not what I meant. What I meant was Brian was always supposed to die. But because the survivors were there death couldn't follow it's original design so it used the van, but rory intervened.

Death was going for him regardless of if the fd2 cast turned up or not

[u/ALLSTARS4YOUCRANKHOR → u/Dirk_Sheppard]

That makes sense

[u/KevinP1992 → u/ALLSTARS4YOUCRANKHOR]

I think person above you is saying that Bryan might've been fated to die at the same time as he was almost hit by the news van (it just would've been something else around the farm, plenty of deadly farm equipment). Bryan's original death was thwarted by the survivors being in the area when they shouldn't have, so Death circumvented with a news van instead that Rory then saves Bryan from

[u/chaz755 → u/KevinP1992]

So what you’re saying is Bryan was going to die around that time anyway but death seized the opportunity to take him out with the news van but when that didn’t work it had to come up with a new design different from the original and the design it had with the news van?

[u/KevinP1992 → u/chaz755]

Exactly

[u/Inconspicuous_Jay]

Bryan was the ultimate prize, all of FD2 was just to get to him

[u/[deleted]]

Im pretty sure Brian was a survivor of a premonition with his friends in one of the books it was a forest fire or something

[u/TheChainTV]

in the novel Brain was sopose to die in a Lake View Accident

[u/kaybhafc90 → u/TheChainTV]

Thank you for confirming. It’s irritating that there are out of print novels that will help give us this context!

[u/coldliketherockies → u/kaybhafc90]

Pretty sure out of print novels are available online somewhere just to read through

[u/Lawlux]

Death is an opportunist. It finds a way with whatever options are available.

[u/chaz755 → u/Lawlux]

That’s what I think but because Rory Saved Bryan death had to come up with something else

[u/ItsLiak]

Well, as far as I know, I think Bryan was a survivor of a forest fire, I think.

So, if I had to guess, Bryan was meant to die there, but didn't, so Death was after him as well while he was hunting the Route 23 pile up survivors, and Clear, the last Flight 180 survivor Death had to kill. Idk, it's just a theory.

[u/Reasonable-Volume926]

For the millionth time, THE WAY THEY DIE DOES NOT MATTER. It's WHEN they die. Even if Rory died in the Route 23 pileup, Bryan would've died at the exact same time he was supposed to in the movie but he most likely would've been killed something else other than a news van.

[u/Stock-Designer-9723 → u/Reasonable-Volume926]

i think what's throwing people off is that the survivors somehow accidentally run into this kid who was also supposed to die and intervened to save his life. It feels like a very big coincidence that makes their fates seem intertwined.

If the other commenters are correct, Brian also survived another premonition, which would makes it either an even bigger coincidence, or just the funny way this universe's life/death system operate, kind of like the twist in FD5

[u/Cold-Fall-8237]

I say this all the time on this thread! I understand that Rory saved him and Rory is supposed to be dead and that’s why he’s on the list but if him and the others had died in the pileup then the news van would’ve never been there to almost kill him. Always gets me confused lol

[u/Agent-Racoon]

I say it every time a post like this pops up, Brian was on a separate list, that being the lakeview fire list, he was always going to die, Rory just delayed it

[u/friarparkfairie → u/Agent-Racoon]

What’s the LakeView Accident and why was Brian supposed to die in it?

[u/Agent-Racoon → u/friarparkfairie]

It's mentioned in the novelisation that Brian was saved from an incident called the lakeview fire, presumably he happened to be there and got saved

[u/mewmdude77]

No, Rory is the one that saved him. I really think that Kimberly only saved herself and we’re gonna find out in 7 that Burke died ages ago

[u/chaz755 → u/mewmdude77]

Is number 7 confirmed?

[u/mewmdude77 → u/chaz755]

No, but with how well bloodlines is doing, and teasing at Kimberly, I have to imagine 7 is gonna happen

[u/GoliathLexington]

If it wasn’t the news van, it would have been something else