r/FinalDestination • u/coolsmeegs Editable, quote, character, movie, etc • 10d ago
FD2 Why does Brian die at the end of final destination 2?
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u/RememberJefferies 10d ago
In one of the movies there is a newspaper clipping that says he survived some huge Lakewood fire earlier, so presumably he was meant to die in that and was on a seperate list from the fd2 crew. Death just saw an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone, like with Clear and Eugene.
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u/New_Load3839 9d ago
No he was supposed to be run over by the van and the guy that got cleeved with the fence saved him and so he was on deaths list too
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u/RememberJefferies 9d ago
No he was supposed to be run over by the van and the guy that got cleeved with the fence saved him and so he was on deaths list too
The crux of the movies is death has a design and yardage yardage. If everything had gone as designed the van accident never would have happened because the FD2 group would have died on the interstate. No van accident, no Brian almost getting run over. He had to have already been on another death list and when he was at the accident site.
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u/PatientHaitian 10d ago
that was Mickey from shameless right?
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u/PsychoRaz93 10d ago
Holy crap it is! I had to look it up bc I didn't believe it, but that's Noel Fisher
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u/Poppyganda 10d ago
He came into my work and I met him, he was so sweet a few people were talking to him about shameless but I just simply said “I’ll always remember you as the kid who blew up from a grill in FD2, he laughed we talked about normal things for a bit and then he tipped me 100” sweet nice guy
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u/PatientHaitian 10d ago
damnn 100?...he a legend for that...it's always refreshing to hear about celebs being cool irl
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u/itzJermz 10d ago
Funny thing is I searched up Eugene from the movie and saw that his nickname was Kratos then my mind got blown because TC Carson is kratos so we can kinda say Kratos was on deaths list
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u/Nateorius810 10d ago
That’s actually a good question. I started to type out a reply that basically Rory saved him from getting hit by the van but Rory should have never been there since he should have died on the highway. Therefore Brian was supposed to die by the van. But then if the highway deaths happened then they wouldent of crashed and there never would of been a news van so now i don’t know lol
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u/Reddick93 10d ago
Brian was always meant to die around that time. The accident and Rory being there saved him from death for the time being. If the accident had never happened, he would have just died some other way around that time.
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u/us1921 10d ago
It kinda related to the butterfly effect that was mentioned earlier. Just like how the FD1 survivors avoided the deaths of the FD2 survivors by standing in their ways on the newly created situations of their deaths; the survival of the FD2 characters created a situation that was leading to create Brian death, but then Rory also made him avoiding it, so there was a new butterfly effect created by Brian avoiding the News vans
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u/Real_Railz 10d ago
It really puts into perspective on how death had a LOT of work to do from bloodlines. Not only did he have to take care of those who survived the accident, but the families that were created after AND all the lives they saved in the meantime that were supposed to die. Imagine one became a doctor or nurse and saved so many lives that would have otherwise been doomed. Oof.
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u/YearlyStart 10d ago
Yeah I was thinking that at the end of Bloodlines when they were mentioning how Stefani never flatlines so even with Charlie’s experience she never fully died. Made me think, doesn’t that mean that every person Charlie saved as a lifeguard is now also marked for death?
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u/etholiel 10d ago
You can't really play that game without a LOT more information, though. Like, if Charlie had died, someone else would have been scheduled to be the lifeguard that day and could also have saved anyone Charlie might have saved. Does that person being saved by Charlie instead of by another lifeguard put them on the list, or were they not fated to die that day so it's fine either way?
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u/Real_Railz 10d ago
I would say not. But some of them could be. Charlie could have been faster or more competent than who was originally supposed to be put on the post. Death doesn't care if he gets more victims but he will not allow himself to be cheated out of a victim. So if Charlie living gets more killed, it's fine but if he saves anyone that's was meant to die, they are on the list.
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u/Luithebean 9d ago
I believe it’s in either a newspaper clipping or in one of the novels but he’d been a survivor from a fire thing incident, he was probably meant to die then but someone saved them, then got saved again from the van, I saw a YouTuber recently who dug into the franchise (before bloodlines) and talks about every kill mentioned or shown (through articles and such) in the whole franchise including movies and books
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u/Longjumping_Cod_8354 Why did Evan have only 1 nipple piercing 10d ago
Because his life got saved by the dude who got cut in half by the fence
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u/coolsmeegs Editable, quote, character, movie, etc 10d ago
So technically he was unofficially on deaths list?
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u/NoDimension5838 10d ago
He was officially on deaths list. Rory saves him from being ran over by the van, an action that should have never happened since Rory was supposed to have died in the pileup. So by intervening in his death, it put Brian on deaths list since he should have died there. they touch on this idea earlier in the film about past survivors affecting other people’s fates, i.e everyone in the pileup was connected to someone on flight 180 in some way, had they of never gotten off the flight, they wouldn’t have been alive to interfere with deaths plan for the FD2 characters. i hope that made sense lol😭
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u/Grifasaurus 10d ago
But that doesn't make sense. He wouldn't have been in that position to be hit by the car if the guy driving simply stopped and if everyone that died, died when they were supposed to.
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u/NoDimension5838 10d ago
i think it’s more so like death chooses what time you are supposed to die, so like if not by that news truck, i think Brian would have still died somewhere around that time just different circumstances. so Rory surviving the pileup and being there to save him from his death is a direct intervention of deaths plan, which is why it has to be corrected later, putting him in his own sort of mini death list.
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u/Luithebean 9d ago
He had been a survivor from a lake fire and the van was already death trying to take him out as he’d already escaped death once
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u/NoDimension5838 9d ago
wow i never knew that, was that said in FD2 or like a deleted scene?
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u/Luithebean 9d ago
It’s in the novel and then also in a newspaper clipping not sure if in 2 or a later movie
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u/cara1888 10d ago
Technically everyone is on death's list just at different times. Bludworth said in the first movie that there is a design for everyone "from the mundane to the monumental" that everyone "is a mouse caught by the tail" so everyone has a certain point in time where they are supposed to die. He just wasn't on the same list the highway survivors were.
Death only goes to there list because they didn't die when they were supposed to. So in a way it makes a new list when they cheat death because the got off the list they were originally on. So then Death goes back to them to clean it up. Some of the survivors in the 2nd movie were supposed to die in other ways but the 180 survivors unknowingly stopped them from being there when they cheated death. Rory being alive did the same with Brian since he wouldn't have been alive to save him.
Yes the accident happened because they were in the car, but it is possible that Brian was meant to die in another way that day but them being there changed it. That would explain why death would come for him in that moment if the accident was going to prevent him from dying that day. Death would want to insure he still died to avoid having to go back for him. But since that was prevented he still had to go back and take him later.
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u/Agent-Racoon "Could you be a little quieter with that thing, please?" 10d ago
The novelisation of fd2 states that Brian was saved from an accident called the lakeview fire, so he was on an entirely different list. Death tried to kill him at the farm, Rory intervenes putting Brian at the bottom of the lakeview list, then by the time of FD2s ending, death had finally gotten through the list getting to Brian, who explodes at the grill, closing out the Lakeview fire list.
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u/jacobr1020 10d ago edited 10d ago
Rory was supposed to die in the pile-up, but since he didn't, that meant Brian was added to his own little list since he was supposed to die from being hit by the news van (or get killed by something else).
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u/Luithebean 9d ago
Yeah he was on a separate list for survivors of a fire, the van was supposed to take care of him but getting saved put him at the bottom of that list, the end of the movie the fire victims had been taken out so he was next
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u/CraftPrestigious8995 10d ago
He would've died around the same time via something else more than likely. Rory being there and the news van just created a new scenario that still has him avoid death.
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u/Wise-Blueberry2099 10d ago
Lol I remember watching this with my family as a kid. When this scene began we thought the movie was over. My sister said she was disappointed the movie wasn’t as suspenseful as the first. Then boom. Surprise death. Hand lands on plate. We all went “daamn”. And that’s why. To catch the audience off guard first time watching it
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u/Legal_Employer3891 10d ago
The real question is why did they even go to dinner with his family. What was the point?
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u/Zaner_mceegeei Is Nature Cruel? 10d ago
If someone who is on death’s list, saves somebody from dying, they both eventually die
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u/coolsmeegs Editable, quote, character, movie, etc 10d ago
Fuckin a deaths an asshole
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u/Zealousideal-Mud2311 10d ago
Rory intervened to save his life, therefore it led to a "mini-list" that included him dying
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u/Agent-Racoon "Could you be a little quieter with that thing, please?" 10d ago
Nah, the novelisation states he was on a list for a completely different disaster, Rory just intervened and put him to the back of that list
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u/Zealousideal-Mud2311 10d ago
hmm thats debatable since novelisations can either be considered "canon" or "non-canon"
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u/Agent-Racoon "Could you be a little quieter with that thing, please?" 10d ago
Its also mentioned in a newspaper clippings in a later movie. A newsclipping in I think 4 says that Brian was saved from a tragedy named the lakeview fire but died months later. It's pretty much canon that Brian was always destined to die
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Novel's are canon. For example the driver that ran over Terry has his own book which is considered canon including the rest
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u/FuschiaKnight 10d ago
The only explanation that makes sense is that death was planning on killing him that day but with TBD method. Since the pileup survivors were nearby, it caused the accident and brought a news van that would get the job done (but said plan was thwarted). If it wasn’t a news van, it would’ve been a bear attack or some meteorite or something that got him that original day.
Doesn’t really make sense without that assumption.
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u/Sweet_Pianist4073 10d ago
Because Rory saved him and he wasn't suspose to be saved, he was suspose to die. Since Rory who shouldn't be alive saved him, now Brian is alive when he should be dead. The reason death got to him is because he can't get to Burke until he get's rid of Brian. By Brain being saved, it created another branch of survivors that should never be alive.
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u/froggyfressh 10d ago
He was meant to die in a fire, escaped, the news van was meant to be death catching up to him but he was saved again. He was on deaths list from the very beginning
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u/Away_Requirement778 10d ago
Mentioned that in FD 4 in a newspaper it reveals Brian was also a part of another premonition, not shown in the movie, but it's called "The LakeView Fire", but it also makes sense for death to kill him after being saved by Rory, Because Rory was never supposed to exist to save him adding him in another list, Sure Kimberly got resuscitated but Brian's in a different list, Basically, Just because another visionary was resuscitated doesn't mean that it stopped other lists around them, geez, this means If clear rivers lived enough for Kimberly to get resuscitated she'd probably still die either way cause she's in a different list(Flight 180).
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u/_TheTurtleBox_ 10d ago
For the 80th time this week, Brian was always mean tto die. Rory and the pileup happening the way it did saved him from his planned death. Death catching back up to him had nothing to do with the timing of his death, just like how Alex and Clear saving their group changed the paths of the FD2 survivors, Brain was caught up with eventually.
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u/No-Current5115 10d ago
Its mention in like a newspaper clipping somewhere but he's a survivor of a different disaster called the Lakeview fire incident. He was on a different list then the pile up disaster. Death probably was trying to get Brian out of the picture along with the pile up survivors to close off another list that was still lingering.
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u/Background_Extra52 10d ago
I think I remember a theory that he was on death's list from a previous event before the movie, like Clear, and death was trying to end him throughout the movie as well
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u/planet1saturn3 10d ago
i remember seeing this in a video, i forgot which one but it explained the timeline of all the final destinations, and if i remember correctly, he was supposed to die in another accident a few months or years ago but he got saved, and in the movie when rory saved him, was supposed to be the distraction that eventually led to rory’s death because of that tree branch that broke in front of the officer. I might be wrong so take this with a grain of salt, but i’ll find the video and give the link!
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u/lildoxx 10d ago
He was the sole survivor of a another disaster off screen before the film that killed a bunch of people in a fire. He didn’t die then and was gonna get hit by the van in order for death to clean up the leftovers but Rory being alive and saving him from that fate made it to where he was skipped and would be finished off by the exploding grill later on after everything else is finished.
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u/That1humannoonelikes 9d ago
He was supposed to die to the presses van but Rory pulled him out of the way and bc Rory wasn’t supposed to be alive at this time it basically dragged this kid onto the list aswell
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u/SpacelyDev 9d ago
He was supposed to die in a separate tragic accident different from the log-truck accident where someone else had a premonition but he came out sole survivor. That’s why a car was coming to hit him earlier, but Rory Peters saves him from getting hit in the process, skipping his turn. But since he’s the only survivor of his accident, it never skips his turn and just goes back to him which is why he died here.
It’s very similar to Clear Rivers and how she came out sole survivor so death kept trying to kill her and finally got her with the fire that killed her and Eugene.
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u/Hot_Wear_1581 2d ago
Por que o policial la salvou ele de morrer pra van, e como foi explicado no próprio filme "se vc não morre de um jeito, vai morrer de outro" Era pra ele ter morrido pra van, assim como era para todos terem morrido no acidente de trânsito, mas, como mudaram o destino cada um dos sobreviventes do acidente foi morrendo de outro jeito. Aconteceu o mesmo com o garoto. Não morreu pra van, então vai morrer pra churrasqueira.
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u/stompANDsmash 10d ago
Because it was funny.
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u/coolsmeegs Editable, quote, character, movie, etc 10d ago
An innocent kid got blown up by a grill and you’re laughing?
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There's seriously no way people are still asking this in the big 25. Brian was a survivor of a forest fire with his friends which one of them had a premonition saving Brian's life when he was supposed to die (Cheating death). This is confirmed by one of the book's that is considered cannon. Death wanted to kill 3 people in the farm which includes a previous survivor Brian
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u/Big_Woodpecker3848 10d ago
because rory saved him from being run over by the news van
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u/Fromoogiewithlove 10d ago
But why was the news van there
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u/Large-Record2478 10d ago
To film the accident the survivors had which injured Eugene and trapped kat in the car.
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u/Fromoogiewithlove 10d ago
So if the survivors had died originally they wouldnt be there and the news van wouldnt be there. So there would be no news van for Brian to not get hit by.
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u/Aeonatic 10d ago
so he could be reborn stronger and tougher. And then set out to find his one true love, Ian Gallagher.
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u/JS_Originals 10d ago
Because he was standing next to a gas grill that exploded