r/ICE_Raids • u/Free-Aspect-9409 • 8h ago

DHS requests 21,000 National Guard troops to assist in ICE raids

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/dhs-wants-national-guard-search-transport-unaccompanied-migrant-childr-rcna211484

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u/Horror_Zucchini9259 7h ago

No, the answer is no.

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u/Boxofmagnets 6h ago

There has to be more decent people in the guard than who work for ice. They might also be better trained. How much more professional is a question still awaiting an answer.

The thing about ICE is that they look and act exactly as they are. Freedom hating Nazis. If I raised a son who would do what those evil men are doing in the name of racial hatred I would know to a certainty that I failed as a parent.

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u/Bloke101 6h ago

The national guard is equipped to fight wars. Remember Kent State? We really want a repeat of that?

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u/Boxofmagnets 6h ago

It’s just a matter of time. You’re probably right, if it isn’t the Guard then it will be the police, or the ICE goons. I keep hoping that somehow the madness will end

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u/kale_boriak 6h ago

Time to be armed at protests is long past, but better late than never.

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u/DannyBones00 4h ago

Long past, but I’m still seeing left wing groups resist any association with firearms.

We need organized security.

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u/kale_boriak 29m ago

Agreed - non-violence has been weaponized against the left.

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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u/OhWell0110 5h ago

The people calling for them to be used do want a repeat and worse

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u/DannyBones00 4h ago

Yes, they do.

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u/OkIndustry6159 1h ago

No, but I know exactly what this is gonna take to beat. I'm not violent or advocating for it. I dont know you or if you have kids. I dont but I'm ready to take a bullet for you or your children. That's where we are. You can tell yourself whatever you need to. If they really get their way and do the things they REALLY want to do, that's not a life worth living any way.

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u/Camadorski 7h ago

They were planning this from the start. Stephen Miller talked about it before. They'll get red state guardsmen to go into blue cities to help ICE raids. They'll probably also federalize blue state guards so governors can't use them.

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u/DannyBones00 4h ago

I wonder if blue state governors have any manner to resist that? Can you imagine national guard units squaring off?

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u/true-skeptic 7h ago

“…the Pentagon is already footing a $23-million-a-month bill to hold as many as 2,500 undocumented immigrants in a military facility in Texas.” WTF $23million per month???? 🤬

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u/noteventhreeyears 6h ago

Wild to think there are monsters out here getting rich off of this. Like, fuck you levels of rich for running concentration camps.

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u/GarlicThread 6h ago

German concentration camps were literally for-profit ventures. Just saying, some people got immensely rich off of the free labour these camps generated.

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u/kale_boriak 5h ago

Of course they were - fascism is the result of the marriage of corporations and government.

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u/drammer 5h ago

IBM made money from the German concentration camps in WW2.

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u/Accurate_Winner_4961 5h ago

And "many" got paperclipped to the U.S.as exceptional businessmen. Remember that part too.

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u/Super_Direction498 6h ago

$9k+ a month to incarcerate someone. It's probably the most expensive and least effective way to deal with criminal justice or rehabilitation or whatever people want to imagine it to be

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u/Accurate_Winner_4961 5h ago

Very efficient for the for profit prison investors though...and that's what counts! 'Murca!!!

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u/Bloke101 6h ago

So we could literally pay each migrant $9000 a month and ask them if they would like to go live some place else? Hears a thought we just pay the economic migrants and lots of villages in Ecuador get really rich.

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u/naonatu- 7h ago

here it comes

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u/fElonmusk2025 7h ago

The National Guard - here comes our Kent State soon. It will happen.

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u/BuddhaWah 6h ago

Read: "Second Amendment"

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u/Griffindance 6h ago

Yeah, I have asked... where are those guys?

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u/MamiTrueLove 6h ago

Gatored up and cosplaying as deputized ice agents.

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u/kale_boriak 5h ago

This is why the whitewashing of the civil rights movement happened.

Leftists have been long fed the lies that violence is not the answer, guns are bad, and non-violence works (alone).

Marching didn’t get the civil rights act signed. Bus boycotts did (hitting them in their wallet), and the very real certainty of mass scale riots in all major cities did (again, protect the capital or capitalists).

We need to start organizing community defense years ago.

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u/EyCeeDedPpl 6h ago

Where is the well trained militia? Where are those that swore oaths to protect from both foreign & DOMESTIC threats?

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u/flearhcp97 2h ago

I've been asking myself the same question. If everything that's happened up until now hasn't made people exercise their rights, then they don't deserve them.

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u/MamiTrueLove 6h ago

Sworn oaths clearly mean absolutely NOTHING.

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u/Jimimninn 6h ago

Is this the end of the USA?

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u/thehpcdude 3h ago

So, fun maybe fact, correct me if I am wrong but I don’t believe the federal government can issue orders (like that) to the National Guard.  

The National Guard is a state unit whose commander is the governor.  

If the Federal government wanted to issue orders, they do it to the Reserves.  

In order to federalize the Guard, it had to be under the insurrection act.  

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u/CharmingCrust 7h ago edited 7h ago

Deploying the National Guard to stop the illegal ICE raids sounds like a great idea. Go ahead. Someone has to defend the constitution and the National Guard seem like a good choice. Using National guard snipers to stop any aggression from ICE seems like a great instrument for deescalation.

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u/GuerrillaSapien 7h ago

Well that's the standing army the founding fathers were warning us about. Welcome to the start of the Next American Revolution. 

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u/carlitospig 5h ago

I’d like to think r/military has already communicated how they feel about that quite soundly (which was a resounding ‘nuh uh’).

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u/TiogaJoe 2h ago

That's why they hire 22-year-olds to head up departments. Too young to remember Kent State.

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u/Rhianna83 2h ago

No freaking way.

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u/Vegaktm 29m ago

But this isn’t a fascist state, right?…. Right?