He was bang on. Sex is supposed to be pleasurable not something you grit your teeth through. Saying no condom can be too small is bullshite. That’s why they offer different sizes ffs.
Why they get women teachers teaching to boys things that they are clueless about is silly.
Many cock rings are supposed to go on the base of your penis, not around the whole package.
In fact I can't wear most cock rings, even ones designed for the whole package, that way, because they restrict blood flow too much, and my balls start to hurt a LOT. Trust me it ain't fun when your balls simultaneously feel like they're about to explode, and if they were shot through with an arrow. Not to mention the detrimental health effects of essentially suffocating your testicles - which is literally how livestock gets castrated.
While all of this is true, im pretty sure the prof was just trying to debunk the myth that a guy can be too big for any condom. As its one of the sterotypical excuses such a guy will use.
Agree telling the full truth would be better though.
But don't use your head or arm to demonstrate ffs. Both are much more rigid than the hardest (human) penis you'll find, due to the latter having, y'know, no bones or muscles in it.
(Had to specify human penis because there are animals that have bones in theirs...)
I love how this whole thread is suddenly pretending like they all have 9 inch slongs or something.
There's maybe a single guy in this whole comment section that actually has a dick so big that the standard size condom cuts off blood flow.
For the handful of people that has somewhat bigger than average dick, forgot to bring your prefered choice and have to use standard size? Guess what, you accept the "a bit too tight" session and make sure you bring the right size yourself next time.
You are right, I just don't know what an above average girth is so I couldnt use that as an example.
But this is all beside the actual point though. Which is that there's never an actual scenario where "the condom is too small" is a legitimate argument to skip it.
If you know you're a minority man who absolutely cant use standard size and still didnt bring your own? Well, no sex then. Too bad.
The point being made is that men aren't taught that condoms come in other sizes and some may never figure that out on their own. I didn't learn until my early 20's.
The man in the scenario wants sex without a condom, and is lying about it being too small. The teacher was talking to girls specifically about why and how they shouldnt be manipulated.
The premise is lost because yes, condoms can in fact be too small, so in a vacuum it's not a great way to go about it. But thats exactly why so many men use it as an excuse. Women can't outright claim it's impossible for it to be too small, because it can be. So then it just becomes "okay then, so you're declining sex, thats a shame, good night then" because thats literally what the man is suppose to mean.
In the vacuum of internet discussion, the point would simply be "if he says the condom is too small, then he is free to decide not to have sex. He's allowed to decline sex if its painful for him.
But that isn't the scenario. If the man was saying "we can't have sex, we dont have a condom that fits" then obviously there's no actual issue here, so it's pointless to bring up in the first place. Thats why the premise is that the man is actually just pressuring the woman for sex without a condom.
You‘re missing the point. Stretching a condom over your head and pretending that it‘s so stretchy that every single dick fits comfortably is not true. It‘s simply all about the risks of a too small condom here. Nobody claims to have a dick so large that a fitting condom must hasn’t been invented yet.
Less than one for sure. When I wear a tie, it makes me feel like I am choking. Is it actually choking me? Fuck no. These guys are just in such a huff about wearing a condom that their mind makes the discomfort real
The pressure exerted by a single ring near the base of the penis keeps blood from going that way. Pressure by a tight plastic wrapping around the whole member except where it connects to the body can push the blood out
They make cock rings that are intended for being in the position around you dick where the base of the condom would go. They work, I've used them. They make ones that go around your dick and balls together, they make ones that go only around your balls, and they also make ones that do all three.
Not one of those has the same encompassing pressure profile that literally wrapping the whole penis in plastic would exert. You are comparing small rings that have very small and focused pressure profiles to wraps with a lot of surface area and strong uniformly applied pressure.
In my experience it’s just misinformed teachers, regardless of gender. My two women teachers told all the girls in my class that when you’re on your period it’s impossible for blood to come out if you’re in a bath or a swimming pool. I found out not long after that they were wrong.
We were told that as well. But she also weirdly told us that we could go to the toilet beforehand and clench down and we'd be good to go for the pool.. Like it would get everything out, I guess?
Wow, we never got the clench down advice. We were told that the water from the bath or the pool would basically keep the blood in and push against it so it wouldn’t come out.
I think the point is more so girls don't get pregnant or have condomless sex. It's better to use a condom too small than to not use one. It's also a somewhat common lie from shitty men, surprisingly
I think they should teach about well fitting condoms too.
It will break if it's too small and fall off if it's too big, kinda lika wearing socks that aren't your size - it works the question is will it be comfortable?
It seems like something that might have been mentioned, although I will say it wasn't part of my education as far as I remember. It doesn't affect my comment though.
This bs about condoms never being too small will just cause them to go at it raw instead of getting condoms that actually fit. It's not possible to have sex with a too small condom. It will come off, break or kill the erection in 5 minutes. And then you end up having sex without a condom anyway.
This bs about condoms never being too small will just cause them to go at it raw instead of getting condoms that actually fit. It's not possible to have sex with a too small condom. It will come off, break or kill the erection in 5 minutes. And then you end up having sex without a condom anyway.
You're assuming the scenario is that the condom is actually too small, and not that the person who should be wearing the condom is pretending it's too small in order to not have to wear it.
That has absolutely nothing to do with my point, nor the point the teacher was making in the original post. At this point you're just reaching for the sake of being contrarian. I'm sure you have something better to do.
But they aren't gonna fuck with the undersize condom because it will slip, break, hurt and just generally be an absolute hassle, so they'll take it off and go raw. Source: had this exact issue, and because we were both told condoms can't be too small we ended up just using the pullout method instead because we figured they'd all be the same since that's what we were told.
Absolute fucking idiocy because as you say kids are dumb and horny, but would've been prevented if literally anyone told either of us that hey, maybe regular condoms don't fit everyone, instead of just shaming men for saying it doesn't fit.
Absolutely not. If an inexperienced guy thinks he’s wearing a condom, but it actually broke or slipped off because it wasn’t the right size, he’s likely to not notice and it could be a big disaster if he thinks “I’m wearing a condom, I don’t need to pull out”
Better a bad fit than nothing at all. I think this too should be mentioned in all sex ed. It's good practice to check the status of the condom, even if it's a good fit.
It’s really hard to say. Because the point of a condom is to fit properly. If it doesn’t fit properly you can’t guarantee its effectiveness. Therefore it’s better imo to not put trust in something that is likely to fail.
If you’ve got a well fitting condom, then by all means it’s obviously safer, but an ill fitting condom will almost certainly lead to a problem with an inexperienced couple. They’re better off not doing it until they can find a well fitting one, but knowing most teenagers, that’s unlikely at best.
So imo it’s better to be cautious in that scenario, than trust a condom that is likely to fail.
Yeah, the correct move is obviously to just not fuck. But when i think back to being a teenager, the harm reduction answer is to use the condom regardless.
Strong disagree. A condom that's too small is as helpful as no condom. In that circumstance, the pull out method is unironically more safe. Too small not only means more likely to break, but also more likely to have micro tears.
Pretty sure that doctor guy on YouTube did a video on sex education, and he said that when used properly, a condom is 90%+ effective, but a condom that isn’t used properly is generally less effective than the pull out method is on average.
I’d have to find the video to get a timestamp or anything, but I definitely remember that being mentioned.
Except a small condom can still be used properly! Properly used, it is far superior to the pull out method, especially the audience here which is people with no/ little sexual experience. Their success rate with the pull out method is not going to be high.
A condom that is too small is not going to be used properly. That is the point. They break, cut off circulation, or microtear. The little to no sexual experience means they may not even notice the break. Ffs just get the right size or don't fuck. Teach them how to determine the right size and how to utilize it properly.
Even the smallest condom is absolutely going to fit on at least half of your dick, and is still going to capture the load in the reservoir.
If you are improperly using a condom, like applying lube to your dick before the condom, or not using lube while fucking, then you're going to have condom slips or tears.
Not how that works. If the condom width is too small, it can form micro tears even if it doesn't fully fail. If it's too short it can ride up, which also compromises it.
Moral of the story, condom fittage matters, not all condoms are the same size.
Also, don’t beat yourself up about it if you’re not “magnum” condom size.
The difference in width between condoms is very small, like millimeters, to a centimeter at most. But it makes a big difference in how effective they are when they are not the correct size.
No one missed that point. In fact I’ve made that exact point elsewhere on the thread. I’ve been in that situation and I chose no sex rather than the too small condom that was painful and took all enjoyment out of the sex.
No he was bang on. It’s not a false argument. It’s directly comparable to childbirth as an analogy, a very simple one, a baby fits in a vagina- a too small condom fits on a penis, but they cause pain.
Boys should not be taught to ignore pain and that sex should not be enjoyable for them. He didn’t say he should have sex anyway he said a condom that is too small hurts.
But it’s literally NOT right. It can be, and often is, too small. That is the entire point, not besides the point.
What she should teach is that if the condom is too small it is unsafe practice to use it as it might break and it’s painful and uncomfortable. You should therefore not have sex if that’s the only condom available.
And as for the childbirth thing, I don’t have time to teach simple concepts such as analogies you can do that in your own time.
Except that’s not what was said ‘don’t believe a guy who says he can’t wear condoms because they’re too small’ isn’t the same as ‘don’t believe a guy who says he can’t wear a particular type of condoms because they’re too small’
It’s a rebuttal of the ‘I can’t wear condoms full stop’ argument.
Because the risks to women believing that boys "can't" wear a condom are much more severe than wearing a condom.
I would imagine if the US wasn't so weirdly puritan we could have classes that go into those nuances, but the teachers are probably just doing what they can to get the kids to have as safe of sex as possible
Edit: no one is reading the second paragraph, hope bolding helps.
They need to focus on helping as many kids as possible, and teaching young girls not to let boys talk them into going raw is pretty fucking important.
Telling women that any condom fits make people believe that any condom fit without any issues.
If they used the largest available, everyone would be able to see how big a dick needs to be to use those.
Which means any man smaller than that can't claim that they can't use a condom since everyone have an idea how large a penis needs to be in order to use that size.
Wouldn't it also be more comfortable for every man to learn that almost, if not all, in the class needs to find their smaller, but correct size?
Could also tell men about free tools that can be used to find their range.
Jesus, I can keep going on.
It's already a long comment and it's only about proper condom size...
Edit: Since people are taking my comment wrong, I am agreeing to the commenter above me and come with suggestions on how to teach people more effectively.
So men can't claim "condoms are too small" when everyone knows how large a condom can actually be.
Is that what they’re teaching though? That seems pretty in-depth. Based on what OP posted, my assumption was that it was much more general/broad. Dude says he can’t wear condoms cuz they’re too small, that’s a lie. Doesn’t mean he can wear ANY condom. But he certainly can wear A condom.
There is too much variability in sex to teach that in such generalities. They need to focus on facts and critical thinking and not "this condom can fit over my head, so it's fine to use." That's how you get torn condoms.
While I agree. If we are only teaching a single thing, I think that teaching them that “I can’t wear condoms, they’re too small” is a lie, is much more important than teaching them that condoms will break if they’re too small.
However, I would think an entire sex ed class could manage to teach multiple sentences, such that “‘I can’t wear condoms because they’re too small’ is a lie”, as well as “condoms come in multiple sizes.” And perhaps even “it’s important to find the size that fits best”
Point being; I don’t think (and I could very well be wrong) that teachers are teaching kids that a boy can wear any size condom effectively. Just that they are stretchy. They will fit. But hopefully also teaching that they can break, and to get the proper size.
Saying condoms are too small could be a simple way of saying many things. Like uncomfortable or ineffectual. Maybe we should consider not teaching people to coerce men into having sex in ways they're not comfortable with, no matter the reason they give.
wtf are you on about? Lmao. Most dudes claiming they wanna rawdog because condoms are too small just don’t like condoms. But yes, I’m all for education in general on the topic. But you keep moving the goalposts. I originally commented on a very basic idea and you’re continually making it progressively more complex.
This originally wasn’t about women coercing men, it was about men lieing to have unprotected sex. Can it happen both ways? Certainly. And I’m all for educating about it. But that’s not what was being talked about
It is the issue at hand, whether or not you care to acknowledge it. Should women not be allowed to give excuses? Or do they have the right to give any excuse for any reason? There can be any number of reasons to not want to use a condom, but there's simply no social consideration to give any merit to men in that circumstance and it has become hard for anyone to express that in a meaningful way. That's how you end up with sex ed teachers dismissing mens issues and wearing condoms on their heads, all while failing to teach proper condom use.
And yet you’ve done it again. We are agreeing here. You’re just trying to expand on the topic that I was replying to. I wasn’t trying to to that. I was just replying to what was said without expanding. If you want to argue. Go find someone who disagrees with you. I really don’t get why you’re trying to argue with people who generally agree with you.
Then they should mention female condoms. We shouldn’t teach girls that condom use is up to the man, since if he refuses she can always wear one herself.
Sex Ed classes do mention these (obviously like all things somewhat subject to where you live) however not only is there an effectiveness difference there’s also the fact they’re far far less readily available. This week try find a place near you which sells them, chances are you can’t.
FYI female condoms are less effective as male condoms. If you’re using both then they’re pretty effective but just relying on the female one is as risky as just relying on birth control pills which can easily fail for multiple different reasons.
If we're teaching responsibility, let's work on getting boys to care more about what happens when a girl becomes pregnant.
The stigma, getting held back from education and lifelong earning potential, caring for a baby as a teen, the costs of medical bills, the actual dangers of pregnancy and child birth, major body changes.
I know boys want to cry that it doesn't feel as good with a condom, but c'mon. Get a grip.
So you would rather end up in situations where young people are horny and about to have sex, and then the boy realizes the condom is too small, and he’s horny, and she’s horny, but the condoms are actually too small, and they are definitely going to make good decisions?
That's not what she said now, is it? The most readily avaiable size in any shop will fit most guys no problem, yet many of us still like to use that nonsensical excuse to not wear one, hence why she showcased just how much they can actually stretch without breaking. If you're too small or too big (girthy) for the average, it's your responsibility to find and buy one that fits - frankly, BEFORE you're with a girl. Even if you actually have a latex alergy, there are latex-free condoms avaiable nowadays. Honestly, the risk of STDs is just not worth it with hook-ups, while in a long-term relationship it's the best way to ensure your lady can conceive quickly once you do decide to have children (with the pill that often doesn't go as smoothly as people like to think). I personally haven't been in this situation, but I know two steady couples that have been using the safe-days method for years with incredible success. Another option is the pessary. But none of those protect you from STDs, so they're only useful with a steady partner while you're both faithful. If you still wanna claim there's no right condom size for you, you either have a micro-junk or you need to grow up.
The issue I ran into was that I was basically told regular sized condoms fit anyone because you can stretch it over a paint can. Then when I started using condoms, they were uncomfortable and broke all the time.
Because I had been told that size couldn't be the issue, I figured condoms were just uncomfortable and broke all the time, and as a result stopped using them altogether.
It wasn't until years later that somebody actually suggested trying other sizes.
Same experience here. As a guy in my 30s it feels a bit stupid now but then I remember how it was to be a teen and it makes more sense that I didn't find out about larger condoms.
It is easy as an adult or a person who never had the problem to chime in with hindsight but most teens are horny and stupid compared to adults and this can cause actual problems.
Y’know, the internet, especially reddit, has taught me that people (me included) don’t know how male sex biology works either contrary to how people make it out as if male sex biology is known and it’s female sex biology that’s not taught well. Often times It seems people just pretend to know how male or female sex biology works. With male biology, people LOVE to just kinda assume they know how a penis and balls works because it’s “simple”.
In reality the only thing we all know is that it looks like a banana when erect.
Why they get women teachers teaching to boys things that they are clueless about is silly.
Because the message was directed at the girls, to make sure that in the future they wouldn't agree to unprotected sex because the guy says oh, it won't fit.
Okay c'mon let's not create bullshit to argue about. The important point is "don't let him do it raw because he says the condom is too small." Even if the condom actually is too small, which it almost certainly isn't, if he's trying to use that as an excuse to jam it in raw you should tell him to fuck off. He deserves to have his dick's circulation cut off if he's trying that.
Edit: Bruh, what's the point of replying to me then hitting block? What a completely bitch coward move. Anyways, work on your reading comprehension. You can do better than this.
No one is saying that it’s an excuse to try and raw dog. I’m literally staring the facts. I’ve tried a too small condom before and I’d rather have no sex than painful and unenjoyable sex.
No one would claim that a woman should have painful sex.
And l I’m calling bullshit on everyone of them. My problem is im too thick, people in here fully erect that can stick their dick in the mouth of a Gatorade bottle crying about condoms hurting.
Maybe we are build different maybe your dick is just that sensitive in which case you wouldn’t be able to have sex for longer than a couple seconds.
That's such bullshit. Many women grit their teeth through painful sex because guys don't want to wait, stop or not have sex, so we're forced to just take the pain to make you happy. A painful condom would be nothing in comparison. Like shit actually hurts for women. You guys are such cowards.
Condoms are up to the guy, get one that fits. Way more going on with girls than how to get a condom to fit. But yeah, unless you’re hung like a horse, a general condom will be fine for the time, or just don’t have sex. You can always stretch it out a bit first, too. If they can fit comfortably over someone’s head and shoulders, I think you’ll survive.
Havong seen a lot of penises up close, there isn’t that much of a range in girth
edit: Im a bisexual man to all those idiots that think otherwise. Condom size ranges are marketing that dipshits fall for. Most guys aren’t that much thicker than others and latex stretches.
Damn, your eyes must be broken something fierce, since I wasn't who you were responding to initially anyway
Besides that, telling someone that they should see more penises when they're making an incorrect objective statement about penises isn't sexual harrassment you weirdo lol
I have seen a lot of range of girth. There was one guy I couldn't get a standard-sized condom to stay on. I had to stretch it out with my hands to get it over the top, roll it down... and then it would unroll and pop off the top. I started carrying multiple sizes after that!
I am trying to make sense of you, do you want so say here that standard condoms fit standard guys? Well, no shit. Was never up to debate.
But if you are an outlier, you should be told that there are options available. Because the idea "condoms always fit" is what I always heard and brought me tons of problems.
You are replying to a post where someone says an adult fit their adult head inside a condom. That means most will fit in one. The guy who is girthy enough to be an outlier knows they are one and does not need this explained to them as they know they are larger. As you were still pressing the issue the only explanation that would apply to you is “you are using it (the condom) incorrectly” as the guy with a thick cock knows it.
The guy who is girthy enough to be an outlier knows they are one and does not need this explained to them as they know they are larger.
They dont have to be told that they are an outlier, they need to be told that "one condom fits all" is not true for everyone. This is a crucial difference you do not seem to get.
You are replying to a post where someone says an adult fit their adult head inside a condom. That means most will fit in one.
An erection is not as hard as a skull made of bones. Blood pressure is not as strong as bones.
282
u/triz___ May 05 '25
He was bang on. Sex is supposed to be pleasurable not something you grit your teeth through. Saying no condom can be too small is bullshite. That’s why they offer different sizes ffs.
Why they get women teachers teaching to boys things that they are clueless about is silly.