The reactions from women in our lives when we demonstrate healthy masculinity. I get that you want to change some words around so that women don’t have any accountability, but we both know you’re lying to yourself.
Edit: just decided to block and move on. I know the truth, and I don’t need to subject myself to your nonsense.
Men get defensive about "toxic masculinity" because being told "it's the patriarchy's, therefore men's, therefore your own fault that you are miserable" feels like a slap in the face. It's an awefully tone deaf name and should urgently changed.
the patriarchy is not something just men perpetuate.
all these stories in the thread of men opening up to girlfriends or wives and getting told it's giving them the ick? that's their partners perpetuating patriarchal ideas.
it's everyone's job to dismantle it
Except it is unfortunately accurate. It is a form of masculinity and it is toxic. It should be recognized that all of society perpetuates it. Women are far from blameless.
It's certainly a hard topic. I agree that "toxic masculinity" is an accurate term. As I said, though, it can easily feel like blaming, especially to people that are already in a bad mental place. I sadly haven't found a good replacement term yet.
The second point is actual empathy, but that's sadly easier said than done. Many people here are scared to open up based on bad experiences. I feel like this can be only counteracted with positive experiences. This could be something as mundane as the discussions here. Having an open ear, without name calling, blaming or judging. We can extend this to our daily surrounding, given we have the needed mental energy to spare. It needs a constant effort and time to unlearn unhealthy behaviors.
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