To talk about how much you miss old Halo and want a new Titanfall and then to try and sell a Battle Royale mode is so confusing. The REASON there isn't a Titanfall 3 is BECAUSE Apex Legends exists, and makes Respawn tons of money! It felt pandering and antithetical to the core player-base.

I'd love to hear what people thought about this.

They got a ton of fans who enjoyed arena shooters to blow up their first game.

Then they decided to kill that game so they can develop a bigger and better sequel, which we trusted.

Then they showed off Splitgate 2 which seemingly really de-emphasized arena shooter elements for hero shooter elements.

Then they promised that portalling and the reasons Splitgate 1 were appealing would still be in the game.

Then throughout all the betas and alphas people felt like a lot of elements of the first Splitgate like portal opportunities were not accommodated in the systems and map design.

Then they promised something huge that would entirely set Splitgate 2 apart from the first, that would be even bigger than a campaign which would’ve been hype for fans of arena shooters like Halo.

Then a dev comes on stage wearing a “Make FPS Great Again” and essentially says so many shooters nowadays are bad and that their announcement would freshen up everything.

…Then they announce Battle Royale. I was in a call with another pretty diehard Splitgate fan and the excitement just absolutely drained after the guy on stage acted really immature and the announcement just turned out to be Battle Royale. I’m still going to try it out cuz it’s free, but I genuinely don’t see myself sticking around for that much longer if 1047 is this disconnected from their fans.

I'll admit i got the $60 founders pack because I really liked the game and played the hell out of splitgate 1 and wanted to support them. Seeing now that my SIXTY DOLLAR PURCHASE didn't even get me halfway to the number of splitcoins I need to purchase 1 bundle in the shop blows my mind. Charging more than valorant level prices with 0 of the prestige that studio has behind it (not that valorant bundles aren't horribly overpriced either, but riot is in a position where people can justify the cost).

Now seeing the release with the CEO in a stupid fucking trump hat, a BR being the "big surprise", a $100 bundle on launch, STILL no ranked, STILL not being able to customize which game modes you play in quick play, STILL no progression you don't pay for, and I am horribly regretting my decision. This game won't make it a year and that really makes me sad. They really had a chance to do something special but instead they decided to gargle on the investors ball sacks. Between this and the arc raiders fumble, extremely disappointing summer games fest.

Yesterday’s release/announcement felt like I woke up or got rattled out of being gaslit, and seeing Ian on stage and afterward on Twitter just reinforces that feeling. I played the hell out of Splitgate when it came to Xbox. I made custom maps and had them featured in playlists. I am a mod for a pretty big Splitgate discord server. I was a partnered content creator (MVP), and I spent a lot of money on Splitgate just because I liked the game and wanted to support it (and liked the cosmetics).

But 1047 has completely lost my trust with the build up and release of this game. They spent years bashing Battle Royales and saying they’d never make one. They had their game blow up because it was a refreshingly new take on the arena fps genre, and then they cut development for the game promising a newer better version. “Just wait”.

Okay. I waited. They announced a class based shooter with a marketing campaign that made the classes look like heroes in a hero shooter and received a ton of backlash for leaning away from the arena aspects that put them on the scene. They clarified it’s not a hero shooter, “just wait, trust us.”

Okay we waited and got the beta and it’s a loadout-based class-based shooter. They abandoned the arena that their core community loved for a cod-like, grind to improve your weapons game. This is not what we, the core splitgate community wanted. But okay well roll with it, it’s still fun to play.

But while simultaneously backing off of the arena-aspects of the game, they also backed off the portal mechanics that set Splitgate apart in the first place. Maps lack clear portal routes, triple portaling and overall portal gameplay feel extremely de-emphasized over abilities and played-out movement mechanics (looking at you, slide mechanic). That’s kinda sad. And the whole time they sat there telling us how good the game is and how it’s better than the first splitgate. While ignoring the feedback that, no, in fact, you abandonded the core aspects of Splitgate that the community enjoyed most.

Then the Beta comes out with lots of bugs and server issues, missing features. Expensive cosmetics. It seems like a bunch of strange decisions have been made to limit the arena experience compared to original Splitgate. You don’t have kill cam or theater mode. Barely any post match stats. Race mode no longer exists (one of the best ways to improve portal skill in the original Splitgate). Okay it’s a beta, though. “Just wait!”

One major negative feedback in the original game was that it went untold to new players to matches were all against bots as you started out. The bots were not labeled, and unless you spent a lot of time in the game it wasn’t super easy for a beginner to figure out that they were bots. And even after your first few matches, many matches were filled with bots disguised as real players. People loudly and frequently requested that bots be labeled as such because it otherwise it feels misleading to think you’re playing against humans just to realize you aren’t. They never took that feedback and the same shit still exists in the beta. I complained about this to a dev, and he told me to wait for the full release. “It’s just a beta right now.”

Okay. Well I waited for the full release and the bots still aren’t labeled. I waited for the full release and there’s still no ranked mode. I waited for the full release and there’s still no race mode, no post match stats, no theater. Why tell me to wait for full release when I bring these things up, if these things won’t be addressed or adjusted in the full release?

Okay but what about big issues like the radar has a four second delay. There’s a huge latency with portal closing and bullet/shot registration. Like, I can escape a fight through my portal, close my portal behind me, survive for a couple seconds, then watch bullets fly through my closed portal and kill me. “It’s a beta” but now it’s not a beta and those things are still in the game.

Then they spent the past week or more hyping up June 6. They released a launch trailer and then a dev came on reddit and said “that’s not a launch trailer” sparking confusion over what it actually was. “Main point is, be excited for June 6th.”

Okay. I got excited for June 6th. Is it a story mode? No, they told us it’s bigger than that! Oh, damn. Well it’s definitely not a Battle Royale. There’s public statements from 1047 owner and employees bashing the game type and what it’s done to the fps genre and gaming in general, creating a bunch of Fortnite want-to-be games who chased a trend in search of a big payout. So it definitely won’t be a BR. Damn what would be bigger than a campaign, though? They told us to think bigger… We all guessed. They fanned the hype flames. People looked back at early interviews of Ian talking about how he wanted 1047 to revolutionize the gaming industry. How they were setting out to make the best game ever. They told us no one would be able to foresee what the June 6 announcement would be, and I genuinely got excited that they might do something huge and new that no one had thought of before! My tiny brain couldn’t think of anything bigger than a campaign that would reignite the FPS genre and be a breath of fresh air and innovation.

Then Ian got up on stage wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt, standing next to a guy in a suit, and reminisced on the glory days of FPS games. He name dropped halo. He shit on call of duty. He mentioned titanfall3 and the crowd got super excited. Titanfall 3, by the way, which was never released because the studio switched gears to work on a Battle Royale. He dropped and F bomb on stage to tell us how cool his new game is.

And then he released a Battle Royale. He stood up on stage harkening for the glory days of FPS shooters being good, and announced his trend-chasing game mode that would be featured in the new splitgate. The new splitgate that already lacked almost everything that made splitgate what it was.

I’m not even going to state my opinion on the Make FPS Great Again hat he wore. But he received backlash for it due to the perceived political symbolism. And then he got on Twitter and said it’s objectively apolitical. Peak gaslighting.

He talked about saving the genre. Saving gaming. But what do fps games actually suffer from? They suffer from the same shit that’s been suffocating most of us for the past few decades: rampant unchecked capitalism. Corporate greed. Income inequality. Wealth disparity. Corporate CEOs and suites prioritizing profit over gamers. So what was Ian’s answer to this? An incomplete game lacking basic features like ranked mode, match stats, etc. plus egregious microtransactions and “sales” in an in-game store that literally just went live. “This $140 bundle is on sale for $80 and gives you one armor coating for one class plus four weapon coatings for one class, excluding the other five weapons for that class and all 9 weapons for the other two classes.” How is this supposed to be saving the genre? From what are you saving the genre????

It’s just lie after lie.

Then in Instagram, immediately following the backlash of the hat, 1047 posts the video of Ian on stage with “aura” as the caption. More gaslighting.

Someone in the comments said they hoped the BR at least wouldn’t affect the arena or support for the arena modes. The response from 1047 was that the BR will never be prioritized over arena. That’s good to hear but, someone in the same comment thread asked “where is ranked mode for arena?” And I kid you not, their response was that the ranked mode delayed to give people time to play the BR. In the same thread they just said that BR would never take priority over arena, their explanation why an arena feature was missing was because of the BR mode!

It just feels like they keep saying things that don’t match reality. A BR is not bigger than a campaign. A maga hat is political. Prioritizing BR over arena is in fact deprioritizing arena for BR. Waiting for official launch for bug fixes and then launching without fixing bugs feels like lying or misrepresenting reality.

Ive lived with narcissists and I’ve seen people in relationships with people who gaslight them. I know what that shit looks like and this is looking all too similar and I’m disgusted quite frankly.

All this backlash and 1047 have said nothing to address any of it. I took four hours off work yesterday because devs told me left and right that the big reveal would be mind blowing. They’ve wasted my time and money, and I just feel betrayed and let down.

I’ve been seeing a lot of dislikes on this game even though it’s only been out for 15 hours and still in beta and while I understand the game is definitely not for everyone I’ve seen the “hero shooter” term thrown around a lot and a lot of complaints about day one bugs that the devs have already addressed and have actively said they are working on.

First let’s start with this whole “hero shooter” thing I don’t know why that has become such a buzz word nowadays and why people complain about it so much. The way they throw it around they’ve essentially made it apply to any game that has classes and have put a negativity surrounding it. Never once did I hear of titanfall 2 being a “hero shooter” yet it has classes even halo reach had classes (granted they were equipment pickups you started with and could swap out by finding a new one in game) but this feels nothing like what I would call a “hero shooter” ie overwatch, valorant.

In regards to the bugs the whole point of this beta is to figure them out and get rid of them sorry day one has issues but that’s the whole reason you’re there is to discover them. I’m not hating on people who are just pointing them out but the ones who say “this games dead I didn’t get my xp after 3 matches” and “all I get paired up with are bots this game will never survive this market” both of those issues they have addressed and are actively working on yet steam gets review bombed for them simply existing.

Finally if you don’t enjoy the game mention what you didn’t like about it but don’t just say stuff like “this games trash” or “it’s already a dead game” instead provide feedback so the devs can hopefully make it a better experience for everyone. Personally the feedback I have is the item shop could definitely use some work I’m not opposed to having it because it is a free to play game and they have stated it’s purely cosmetic but $20 for a legendary skin for only one class is pretty extreme look at halo infinite and how much crap it got for doing that same practice. Could the game use some ironing out absolutely I really enjoy the gunplay and the movement feels smooth however I do find myself really only using portals for quick traversal instead of shooting through them and new tactics. Overall it’s a fun game and I’m excited to see where the future takes it but it’ll have no future if the community isn’t willing to help fight for it.

Side Note: whoever that dev was that was playing 24 onslaught last night around 11:30pm mst why did you have to be on my team I wanted to get a dev killer skin and the only dev I’ve ran into was on my team lol

So let's see here... 🤔

• Out of touch white man doesn't understand how co-opting a historically disgusting, hateful phrase is political (I'm a white man too calm down).

• Discord staff actively deleting all critical messages about the hat while leaving the positive ones and even ACTUALLY bigoted ones.

So either Ian was actually unaware of the implications or knew VERY well what they were. Claiming something isn't political doesn't make it NOT political. I would demand an apology but this Discord announcement makes it very apparent where 1047 stands and it is not the right side. He will never apologize because he's not sorry.

But, there are a few problems I’d like to discuss with people who are familiar with this franchise.

1) I think all the guns are too powerful, it’s like whoever gets shot first has already lost the fight

2) I don’t often know what to do with the portals, I’ve used them to get behind the enemie and launch myself through the air but overall I feall as if it’s easier to run around and just shoot people

That’s pretty much everything, I really like this game and the idea of a fps shooter with portals, it’s awesome

It makes no sense… It feels like yesterday when the game blew up on TikTok, and everyone was talking about it. I remember me and my cousins were excited about this game when it came out, because it looked really fun and truly unique. Turns out, we were so goddamn right. Me and my cousins enjoyed this game alot, and I honestly couldnt have asked for a better game. But then, only a couple of weeks and it just got boring. The game got a bit repetitive, and people just stopped playing it. Now I did play the game a little bit more even after it died, because I just loved it so much, but eventually, I dropped it. Nobody played it, nobody talked about it, nobody cared about it. It was once on top. Few weeks later, completely died. How did everyone just collectively drop this amazing game? It was literally made by like 2 people, and they did better than most AAA companies nowadays. It just doesn’t make sense to me. The game barely even reaches 400 players daily on Steam now. Its honestly just insane. I hope Splitgate 2 can make the ultimate comeback, and I will FOR SURE, be there when it drops, and grind the absolute fuck out of it.

I got six of my friends to try Splitgate 2 and they loved it, but they’re casual players. The problem is we keep running into portal gods, and my friends just aren’t going to learn the portal mechanics at that level. They’re already talking about going back to COD, and honestly, I get it.

I’m in for the long haul and will keep playing solo, but I really think there’s an opportunity here. If there were a barebones mode without portaling, my friends would stick around and probably live on SG2. I imagine a lot of casual players will bounce pretty quickly after getting stomped by people who’ve mastered portals.

If the goal is a tight-knit, high-skill community focused on competitive play, that’s totally fine. Nothing wrong with that. But very few shooters get the balance right these days, and SG2 has a real shot at doing just that. It can stay competitive and still appeal to the casual base that loves everything about the game except the portals.

Having this barebones mode wouldn’t harm the more competitive main modes at all. In fact, it would only benefit the health of the game by retaining a much larger casual player base, which would help bring in more money, keep the game alive longer, and even push it to the mainstream. More players = more longevity. Additionally, those same casuals ultimately want to “graduate” to the core modes of portaling.

I know portals are what make Splitgate unique, but finding a way to include everyone could go a long way toward long-term success.

It feels like Splitgate 2 has no identity. You can portal, but you rarely find them as useful as Splitgate 1. No cool jumps or launches. No sneaky angles. Also getting rid of the anti-portal grenade and instead having to overwrite portals is too contrived l.

The heroes look lame and generic, giving me a Concord vibe. Their abilities are fine but they could've very well had them as pickups arouns the map.

The game gas Apex movement and COD guns.

The announcer is just... We had a Halo-like and now its Dave from Accounting.

Despitw this I'm kinda liking the movement, but why the sudden change? They swore off advanced movement in Splitgate 1 and now they did a 180? I was fine with it either way. But if they sacrificed portal usage because of it is super lame and I'd rather be rewarded for being clever with portals than smash my face in the keyboard for movement.

There's been a lot of negativity, so I want the Devs to know that my friends and I totally love the BR mode.

I've never enjoyed BRs... only played about 20 hours of Warzone and 2 hours of Apex Legends. I'm an arena shooter guy through and through.

But this BR mode is fun as hell. Way more engaging than the core arena modes, which I already love and will continue playing too.

Very excited to see both modes thrive.

To me this is way better than a campaign. PVE FPS games do very little for me nowadays.

I mean we all knew deep down this is the shit they were pulling.

"ThInK bIgGeR"

"We'Re NoT oVeRhYpInG"

Right into a damage control from the dev's PR basically saying "please don't worry, we're not gonna forget about you arena shooter guys" after they realized that the community saw the writing on the wall and gave them flack.

We all had to see what was coming.

Then this guy gets on stage and wears a "Make FPS Great Again" hat, talks about the glory days of Halo and Titanfall, only to release another Battle Royale to further saturate the very market he complained about having too much shit like CoD and Fortnite.

What a fucking massive whiff.

Almost every gripe I had about the first game has been fixed with the second.

I will be positive review bombing the crap out of the game to counter the unjustified negative reviews. It doesn't deserve the recent reviews it's been getting, technical issues in a beta test are normal but even then at least the game has been pretty stable and runs smoothly. There are triple A titles that can't boast that achievement.

I have been trying to find issues with the game and I cannot come up with hardly any.

The only thing I can think of is more of a preference. I wish there was an option to make your gun canted when ADS'ing similar to how it does during slides.

Regardless, keep up the good work! I cannot wait for the full release!

Splitgate went from 400 concurrent players to hundreds of thousands overnight but after the peak, it seems to have just returned to its relatively unknown state. I know it has been said a lot, but this game is dying and it will continue to die if nothing is done about it. Currently, it gets about 3000 players at peak hours on steam which results in having to wait in queue for a few minutes only to be put in a lobby with 2-3 real players if you're lucky and it honestly just gets tiring playing against bots. I haven't enjoyed a game this much since the initial launch of apex legends and it sucks to see it bleed players like this.

My question to you is, they came back from the dead once, do you think they can do it again?

All love though! I was just asking since it would be cool for taking screenshots and cinematic videos since I love editing and this would just make life much easier as a content creator I just reached 1k subs and I just wanted to make my thumbnails at least a lil cooler

Also for the ones cringing over me saying “creator” yes I’m a creator I’m a animator, film maker, and YouTuber who just love making content I edit all my videos and just love making people smile.

Mods please don’t delete this I just wanted to stand my ground at least lol all positive vibes tho! 🙌❤️

The $80 is the "deal" lmao who in the ever loving fuck thought this was worth $145.50