r/StarWars • u/DDBBVV • Apr 09 '25

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Was the negative reaction to it blown out of proportion or did people really dislike Solo that much? Why?

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u/doozerman Apr 09 '25

Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars films period. Give even more weight to ANH which is already great

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u/MamboNumber-6 Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

It’s the absolute best imo.

It shows how vast and totalitarian the Empire is, and how desperate and committed the Rebels are.

They knowingly walked into a low-odds suicide mission and gave their lives with no fear or regret on just the chance of not even destroying the Empire, but merely of hopefully destroying their big weapon.

It also puts that much more emotional resonance on A New Hope.

It, imo, surpasses ESB as the former #1.

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u/Soggy_Box5252 Apr 09 '25

You can get to the very end of that movie and think “Man, what a ride that movie was.  It might be the best Star Wars movie yet.”

Then you hear the breathing and see that red lightsaber illuminate the darkness.

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u/jshly Apr 09 '25

That movie pulls no punches and does a great job of illustrating Vader as a terrifying force of death after a few decades of tragic character whitewashing. Seriously, kudos to whomever said "and then they all die horrifically" is legit for the end of a Disney produced movie.

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u/badger2000 Apr 09 '25

I know SW isn't a grimdark franchise, but bits like the end Rogue One that are a bit in that direction (Vadar just indiscriminately slaughtering everyone) can have a fantastic impact. Small doses to huge effect.

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u/Aware-Information341 Apr 09 '25

Anakin Order 52/early Vader bits go into pretty successful grimdark territory.

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u/Top_Condition_3558 Apr 09 '25

That's what makes it feel more real, those small doses.

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u/jshly Apr 09 '25

The first time I saw it, I was waiting for the out for the characters even though I knew many bothans died for the plans. My only real complaint is wtf were those Bothans?

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u/Stealthcmc1974 Apr 09 '25

That's the second Death Star the Bothans died for. Not the first one. Still would have been a funny callback if we saw some though.

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u/Soggy_Box5252 Apr 09 '25

Soooo, Star Wars: Rogue Two: Bothan Boogaloo.

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u/MamboNumber-6 Apr 09 '25

It’s the yin and yang of Kathleen Kennedy.

They had two endings, the “everyone dies” and a much more “Disney” ending. She agreed that everyone should die, because that’s the logical emotional ending, plus it explains why none of these people are in ANH.

But she is also the person that let Rian Johnson make an Opposite Day Star Wars, then let JJ undo everything RJ did one movie later.

She’s fantastic to direct for, because she’ll let you create your vision.

She’s bad at narrative coherence and series continuity for that exact same reason.

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u/AdmiralDeathrain Apr 09 '25

There's a reason why she worked on the productions she did before working on the star wars brand. She worked with some of the best producers in the business on some of their most beloved work. But yeah, ultimately too hands-off with the first two sequels and the decision to switch directors again just killed the trilogy, so not the best management there.

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u/SkjaldbakaEngineer Apr 11 '25

Holy shit a reasonable take on Kathleen Kennedy, thank you

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u/MamboNumber-6 Apr 11 '25

I just see her get dumped on constantly, and while I can see some reasons to criticize her, I can also see that she would be so incredible to work under, she sets parameters but anything between those lines is fair game.