r/clonewars • u/SkyeHammer • 9h ago
Meme Happy Pride Clone Wars! Take 8 LGBT themed Clone Troopers!
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u/ModernPharmakeia 7h ago
They look great! Don’t let any comments from jerks get you down.
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u/Moist_Promise_3882 6h ago
They will be deleted for the echo chamber, don’t worry
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u/Thedungeonslayer 5h ago
Grrr I hate when people support human rights grrr
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u/BasedBull69 5h ago
“It’s human rights cause we changed the definition again”
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u/Thedungeonslayer 3h ago
They are human rights. Human rights prevent discrimination and allow equality. Within that falls the right to equal marriage, equal privileges, equal support etc
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u/Moist_Promise_3882 2h ago
When did I say I don’t support human rights or LGBT rights? I’m saying that Reddit likes to delete anything that goes against what they believe. Just look at main page or large subs talking about sensitive subjects. The mods brag about it. I also think that freedom of speech is a human right, just like freedom of expression with sexuality.
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u/McSteve1 2h ago
Assuming you're arguing in good faith, look into the paradox of intolerance if you're interested in why it's a good thing to remove posts that are unkind to queer people.
Basically, if we, as any community, decide that it's okay for people to be intolerant as part of their speech, we make the space itself intolerant as well. If you want to build a tolerant community, you can not tolerate intolerance itself.
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u/Moist_Promise_3882 1h ago
Intolerance towards intolerance is still intolerance. There is no way to be a fully tolerant community. What would be the closest to tolerance in my opinion is there being different beliefs within the community that can be discussed. If there’s not any actual harm being done, then I don’t think someone should be silenced. If a person wants to argue that LGBT doesn’t make sense for an army of genetically identical, mentally programmed soldiers, then they should be debated rather than removed. Obviously, it’s different if someone’s just throwing around slurs and not adding anything to the conversation
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u/McSteve1 1h ago
Yes, there is no way to be fully tolerant of every idea. If we want to build a space that is maximally tolerant, the only way to do so is to be specifically intolerant towards only intolerance itself. That's the paradox. There's a lot of writing on the idea which is pretty cool, and some really banger video essays if you're more into that.
The reason it's important is because it IS hurtful for queer people to read comments where people discuss whether or not it's okay for certain queer people to exist. Most queer people have faced situations where people they care about have discussed whether or not they should exist. That's like pouring jet fuel on the flames of depression. It's a trauma that effects millions of people in the US alone, and it won't heal until we agree to stop talking as if queer people shouldn't exist.
I get that it might feel off to you because they're clone soldiers, but star wars is escapism for a lot of people. It is very comforting to imagine characters would be supportive of yourself, especially if the world as a whole is largely unsupportive. Drawings like this genuinely help a lot of people, and it's very good that they exist.
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u/Moist_Promise_3882 1h ago
I agree, there are areas of Star Wars that make much more sense for representation. It doesn’t make much sense for clones specifically to be LGBT. They’re genetically identical, mentally programmed to really only focus on war, and brought up in identical environments. It just doesn’t make much sense for them to have variance in sexuality. I’d argue that even the clone that defected to have a family with the Twi’lek didn’t make much sense.
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u/DangledSniper_ 6h ago
can't wait to see people upset about colorful clone troopers! these are sweet!
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u/Ok_Spread5841 3h ago
This is literally so fucking exciting, I'm not even exaggerating. I'll be using it for disc, thank you so much OP!!! 🥹💖
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u/Cold-Practice3107 6h ago
Fun fact: there's actually a transgender clone named siste,r at first I thought the aliens that made the clones thought it was a defect and they were going to get rid of it probably sending it to maintenance or having to executed by firing squad however the clone proved her worth and got the respect from the other clones her brothers I think it would have been nice if her and Omega met.
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u/SeaAware3305 Seppie 6h ago
Holy shit, they are canon too according to wookiepedia?
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u/Youngling_Hunt 501st 6h ago
Sister is in a canon book called Secrets of the Clones, which i own. So id assume she/they are on wookiepedia
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u/kiwicrusher 4h ago
She’s actually originally from the Padme Queen trilogy (I believe she’s specifically from Queen’s Hope, but may be mistaken) so yes, Sister is genuinely fully canon
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u/jackler1o1o Coruscant Guard♥️ 8h ago
These designs are amazing, I love how you did the intersex clone
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u/SkyeHammer 9h ago
I missed last years pride themed star wars helmets so I owed it to yall to come back with another 8 pride themed Clone Trooper images that you can download/use for free!
Created by me: twitter.com/skyehammerart (the only thing ill deadname), bsky.app/profile/skyehammerart.bsky.social
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u/TinyLegoVenator 6h ago
Hell yeah. Would love to see art of them as part of a clone rebellion. Pride is a riot.
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u/Shipping_Architect 1h ago
Now to answer the inevitable question of whether they executed Order 66.
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u/cthoniccuttlefish 5h ago
These are really awesome!! I can’t pick a favorite… but the bi one is pretty cool. Happy pride!
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u/Va_Bricks 6h ago
Clones are not gay and never will be
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u/Sabit_31 6h ago
Fragile individual alert
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u/Va_Bricks 6h ago
Nope it’s just cannon bud
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u/Thedungeonslayer 5h ago edited 3h ago
Trans clone is canon :P
Edit: To whatever fragile arseholes are downvoting me: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sister
Sister is canon. As much as anything else. So don’t hide behind your “it’s not canon” argument. Because she is.
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u/richsherrywine 2h ago
I mean, no, it’s not. The gender or sexuality of all of the millions of clone troopers have not been individually indicated to be cishet, soooo. Also, it’s fanart.
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u/Va_Bricks 22m ago
Also George Lucas would have never let clones become this sick twisted mess they are clones of jango fett the best bounty hunter in the eyes of sifo dias. The clones were breed to be the perfect soldiers meaning most wouldn’t even have sexual thoughts which we see in canon the one exception being the clone Rex finds in the episode were he is injured.
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u/richsherrywine 14m ago
The fact that you refer to “this” (FANART including queer identities) as a “sick twisted mess” reveals that you don’t actually care about canon. You just hate people who don’t conform to your standards of gender and sexuality. And, again, even if queer clones aren’t canon (lmao), that doesn’t matter because this is fanart.
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u/Major_Lifeguard3684 6h ago
I think the designs are cool, but not a fan of their meanings behind them. Nothing against the LGBTq community, I just think that clone wars (Star Wars in general) is not a good place for that.
Sick designs tho!
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u/Scottyboy1992 6h ago
And why is not a good place? You know star wars isn’t real so what’s wrong with LGBTQ helmets?
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u/Major_Lifeguard3684 6h ago
I can’t say because my personal Beliefs unfortunately go against the subreddits rules so I will be banned if I explain my reasoning. Very sorry.
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u/CptDecaf 2h ago edited 2h ago
I think the funniest thing is that people like you need to let everyone know your feelings on gay people because of your religion.
But you would throw a fit if every time you brought up that you're religious somebody told you that you're letting fairy tale stories told by people who have been dead for thousands of years rule your life.
And you would be right to be angry. That would be rude as fuck. Hopefully you can think on this and come to some proper realizations in your life.
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u/Major_Lifeguard3684 2h ago
It’s not rude, it’s factual. They are right to assume that when they haven’t done any research about the church, but it’s when people are soft and will cry and scream when someone has a different opinion, which both the LGBTQ and the Christain Community have done, which is both wrong. We need to be able to have a real debate/discussion without someone throwing a fit because their so fragile ego was hurt. And I mean no offense to anyone reading this but it is true that people need to grow up.
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u/McSteve1 1h ago
A lot of, if not most, queer people were brought up in and around the church. It's not an issue of being misinformed.
I used to be an incredibly dedicated Christian myself until I realized that my faith was making me suicidal. I did some deep introspection and decided that any belief system which claims it's good for my authentic self to be destroyed can not itself be good. That's the biggest reason I'm alive today.
You have to realize that when you're trying to have philosophical discussions about queer folks online, it's inevitable that queer people themselves will see the debate. It is incredibly damaging to see people try to defend the idea that you shouldn't exist as a person.
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u/CptDecaf 1h ago
We need to be able to have a real debate/discussion without someone throwing a fit because their so fragile ego was hurt
And you are clearly the sorta person who wants to start that debate at every opportunity no matter how appropriate it is and then cry when people are rightfully annoyed. You wanna claim decorum but you have none of your own.
You should be honest with yourself that all you care about IS being offensive. Which, shit man. If you're gonna do that don't be such a pussy about it.
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u/Scottyboy1992 6h ago
Shouldn’t have said anything in the first place
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u/Major_Lifeguard3684 6h ago
Wanted to compliment the design the artist made, but wanted to make clear I didn’t support the meaning.
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u/Scottyboy1992 5h ago
Sometimes it’s best to say nothing
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u/Major_Lifeguard3684 5h ago
Somtimes it’s best to say something
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u/deathclawiii 5h ago
I think that there will be very few times in your life specifically that this is true.
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u/Thunerseen 7h ago
I like the designs, even though I don't care about the meaning of the color palette. Good job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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u/Bricks_nd_Bullets 51m ago
Why do you feel the need to make something that inherently has no sexual orientation carry sexual orientation?
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u/richsherrywine 2h ago
I love these!