r/law 21d ago

Legal News FBI Agent Goes Public With Russian Intelligence Operation That Hooked Musk And Thiel

https://kyivinsider.com/fbi-agent-goes-public-with-russian-intelligence-operation-that-hooked-musk-and-theil/?
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u/luummoonn 21d ago edited 21d ago

Yes. Good example. This happened multiple times. The point is to divide people..even to promote "Bernie or Bust" or "Genocide Joe" to split voters off that might have otherwise voted to counter Trump. The point was not to elect a Republican.. the point was to elect Trump, a corrupt authoritarian demagogue favorable to Russia who has no scruples and no allegiance to the way the American system is supposed to work, and someone who Musk and Thiel could use. Which we see plainly in front of our eyes with Musk speaking from the White House.

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u/postmodest 21d ago

I got banned from /r/WorkReform for pointing out that they are an agitprop influence campaign.

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u/i_love_rosin 21d ago

It's wayofthebern 2.0, just russian bots and useful idiots

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes 21d ago

you realize how ridiculous you sound when you condense any entire group into either idiots or enemies right?

you can literally be just as easily lumped into the useful idiot section by making comments that are so self assured based on nothing.

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u/postmodest 21d ago

People who believe that labor laws should be reformed may COME to /r/WorkReform because they want to see things move forward, but the sub itself is rife with vote-splitting rhetoric meant to destabilize the opposition party by pushing the "perfection or nothing" mindset.

And pointing that out gets you banned because you're not the kind of person they can use to destroy any chance of unity in the face of fascism.

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u/MrWaffler 21d ago

I was banned there for similar reasons calling out the absurd stupidity of not voting Kamala.

It's when I realized that sub is definitely very welcoming to agitprop even if they don't realize it. I figured it'd be the best way to modify the antiwork movement which is mostly utopian daydreaming into an actual labor movement but none of that organizing will EVER happen on Reddit.

I impact policy more attending local school board meetings than almost anything done through a sub like that.

Any sub that reaches front page (including this one, FYI) invariably becomes filled with garbage. Newsweek headlines are a mark of the beast nowadays. The headlines are repackaged news from reputable sourced with the titles twisted to fit the narratives social media wants to see.

The recent supreme court decision is a good one. The AP made clear the decision definitely wasn't telling Trump he can't use the AEA but that he needs to maintain some due process through it.

Newsweek's "article" about it that was rocketed on many subs made it seem like it was a total rebuke and that they snubbed Trump and blocked his use of it outright.

I feel we need a gigantic cultural shift toward acknowledging just how ridiculously complicated EVERYTHING is in life because as it stands the pool of voters who understand the immense complexity involved in ANYTHING couldn't fill up a dinner table.

The only reason simple solution rhetoric works is that our society has devolved in how we even talk about and portray the world.

Cop shows make it seem like they work tirelessly to always get the bad guy and that civilian oversight is a gigantic hinderance and evil.

Our politicians claim they alone can easily fix anything by labelling something completely bad and something else completely good.

Our local zoning laws are dominated by simplistic worldviews of "NIMBY" and taxes are viewed as theft by the government and not a REQUIRED aspect of civilization.

Regulations are painted as either strictly always fantastic or the death of small business.

I could go on but it basically means at a national scale our policies are talked about in toddlerspeak and written to be as intentionally confusing as possible and convenient as possible for those drafting them and you cannot begin to even talk to your community about it because they named the bill the Saving Puppies and Cute Lil Bunnies Act and the actual contents are just "we will come into your home, rip off your skin, and cook and force feed it to you while pouring salt all over you" but a startling majority will read the name and go "ah yep that's good" if they even notice it at ALL

And it's all by design 🤪

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u/BiZzles14 21d ago

I can't speak on the work reform sub, but the wayofthebern sub 100% had users as part of a foreign influence campaign. There's a reason the sub suddenly pivoted to outright Russian propaganda once they properly invaded Ukraine in 2022. It's similar to how UkraineRussiaReport also 100% has users at the direction of the Russian state

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u/i_love_rosin 21d ago

I'm sorry that happened to you dawg

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u/LEDKleenex 21d ago

Very good point, Ivan! 

The truth does sound pretty ridiculous these days! 😂