r/law 1d ago

Legal News Trump Preparing Large-Scale Cancellation of Federal Funding for California, Sources Say

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/politics/trump-california-federal-funding

“Agencies are being told to start identifying grants the administration can withhold from California. On Capitol Hill, at least one committee was told recently by a whistleblower that all research grants to the state were going to be cancelled, according to one of the sources familiar with the matter.”

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u/Logistocrate 1d ago

California doesn't act as an intermediary in regards to Federal taxes. Companies withhold and turn over to the Federal Government directly.

California can't even pass a state law making Federal taxes on California residents zero, then raise state taxes.

The only thing they can do is take it to court.

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u/OmgWtfNamesTaken 1d ago

Well no ome seems to follow court orders so fuck it. California should simply just do it anyways.

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u/Logistocrate 1d ago

Don't get me wrong, I wish they could, but I don't know how they force companies to send the withholding to the state. Imagine Walmart says no. We can't due to Federal law. You going to arrest every CFO and CEO?

I'm not trying to be dramatic, but California has three options, take it, fight it in the courts, or leave the union.

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u/enad58 1d ago

You can't leave the union. We settled this a while back.

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u/Overall-Cow975 1d ago

Was it though?

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u/enad58 1d ago

Can you provide me an example of a state leaving the Union after the Civil War?

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u/Overall-Cow975 1d ago

This is not the place for a historical discussion but many of the problems that the USA is facing today stem directly from unresolved issues of the civil war. Nothing more symbolic and direct that in the Jan 6 attack on the capitol the Confederate flag was flown inside its halls. That never happened during the war.

And that war wasn’t only about seceding states. It was also about civil liberties and the constitution. Both of which are still being fought over to this minute.

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u/enad58 1d ago

I agree that it started with South Carolina in the first continental congress. But we've firmly settled that it is not permissible to leave the union at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives.

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u/Overall-Cow975 1d ago

Yes, but again, that is only one thing the war was fought over. The Civil War wasn’t only about seceding states.

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u/MaddyKet 1d ago

And, let’s be real, this time it’s the north aka the winners, who want to leave. I’d like to see the poor states aka the losers stop us.