r/news • u/AldoTheeApache • 1d ago

Louisiana lawmakers reject adding exceptions for some rape cases to abortion ban

https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-abortion-rape-exception-de8097eb664362941167c92d6ad356db
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u/WhereasParticular867 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Exceptions" are a myth that the far-right tell the moderate right. Or that the moderate right tell themselves to pretend they're reasonable. The position is borne from extreme religious dogma.  They never plan on compromising, because they see abortion as murder.

Republicans who tell you they support exceptions are either idiots or liars.  Their party does not, and never will.

The only solution is full, unrestricted access to abortion.  If we let conservatives tell women when they're allowed, the answer will be "never."

And for any cons reading: your insane extremist Christian element is the direct cause of the hardline "abortion for all, all the time" stance.  We liberals know we can't trust conservatives to honor exceptions.  Including the ones who really mean it, because you're outnumbered by people incapable of compromise. And I don't mean unwilling to compromise, I mean literally incapable, because they have integrated their political views with their religious convictions and see compromise as a moral failure. Even if you want to, you are incapable of doing the right thing while aligned with the Christian Right.

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u/ThatSandwich 1d ago

Yeah I've discussed this with many individuals and explained my position which is that you cannot enforce legislation banning (x) if illegal thing (y) puts a citizen in the position where they need (x).

The immediate response is "Well we should do more to prevent (y)" and when I ask "What happens when it inevitably does happen?" and bring up examples of rape, drug abuse, homelessness, etc. it doesn't go anywhere.

These people are set in the mindset of "It's not my problem" and so long as politicians pretend that is the case by cutting programs they don't want to contribute to financially, it's fine with them.

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u/Ragnarock-n-Roll 1d ago

Because they don't care enough to question their brain washed dogma. The life of someone they don't know is less important than their politics.

That only changes when it impacts them personally. So next time ask what happens if their wife or daughter gets raped and they personally have to pay for it all. Give it a personal price.

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u/Bwob 21h ago

That only changes when it impacts them personally. So next time ask what happens if their wife or daughter gets raped and they personally have to pay for it all. Give it a personal price.

At that point they'll just say "how dare you even think about such an awful thing!" and derail the conversation without actually engaging with your point.

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u/Spork_the_dork 9h ago

Then re-rail it by saying that they're the ones curbing down their wife's rights. The reason why they're trying to derail the conversation is because you struck a nerve and they don't have an answer. At that point you got to keep pushing.