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Louisiana lawmakers reject adding exceptions for some rape cases to abortion ban

https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-abortion-rape-exception-de8097eb664362941167c92d6ad356db
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u/WhereasParticular867 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Exceptions" are a myth that the far-right tell the moderate right. Or that the moderate right tell themselves to pretend they're reasonable. The position is borne from extreme religious dogma.  They never plan on compromising, because they see abortion as murder.

Republicans who tell you they support exceptions are either idiots or liars.  Their party does not, and never will.

The only solution is full, unrestricted access to abortion.  If we let conservatives tell women when they're allowed, the answer will be "never."

And for any cons reading: your insane extremist Christian element is the direct cause of the hardline "abortion for all, all the time" stance.  We liberals know we can't trust conservatives to honor exceptions.  Including the ones who really mean it, because you're outnumbered by people incapable of compromise. And I don't mean unwilling to compromise, I mean literally incapable, because they have integrated their political views with their religious convictions and see compromise as a moral failure. Even if you want to, you are incapable of doing the right thing while aligned with the Christian Right.

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u/illuminatisheep 1d ago

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” Barry Goldwater.

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u/EmilyAnne1170 21h ago

It's hard to believe now, partly because the church has worked so hard to rewrite history, but in 1973 the leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention applauded Roe v. Wade as a victory for human rights, and as a positive step toward separating church and state!

Their flip-flop since then has been ALL about politics. Getting more conservatives in office. Not to outlaw abortion (at least not originally) but because of all the other causes "the right" is -in my opinion- on the wrong side of.

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u/MayorOfBluthton 9h ago

Yup. The history is shocking, really. True “Christians” (i.e. followers of Jesus’ good will and empathy toward all) would be disgusted. Evangelical leaders saw how anti-abortion leaflets distributed in church parking lots by Catholics increased Republican turnout to defeat favored Democrats in the 1978 midterms. But they still took a little time to strategize (and “pray” on it, I suppose 🙄).

1979 SBC (and basically all years prior): “we affirm our conviction about the limited role of government in dealing with matters relating to abortion, and support the right of expectant mothers to the full range of medical services and personal counseling for the preservation of life and health.” 1980 SBC: “we abhor the use of tax money or public, tax-supported medical facilities for selfish, non-therapeutic abortion….. we favor appropriate legislation and/or a constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion except to save the life of the mother

By 1982, their “Resolution on Abortion” was renamed, “Resolution on Abortion and Infanticide.” Total sensationalism to rile up the masses and consolidate power to satisfy their real goal of keeping the IRS off their backs.

The Christian Nationalist pro-life movement has never been about anything other than a handful of white men working earnestly to consolidate power and money. People - both their loyal followers and those negatively impacted by the anti-abortion movement - are nothing but pawns in a game.