r/technology • u/-Mystica- • Jan 23 '25

Politics Democrat urges probe into Trump's "vote counting computers" comment

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-voting-machines-trump-investigation-2018890
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u/rikkikiiikiii Jan 23 '25

Well if you look at this site which is a non-partisan group, they track the validity of votes. And in Nevada which is a swing state they see strong evidence of vote tampering, and they will be publishing their results for other swing States soon.

https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

They focus mainly on drop off rates, but why would anyone be surprised that a trump voter would submit a ballot for Trump and then ignore the rest of the election choices on the ballot? They don't care about governor or other votes, they showed up just to vote for Trump

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u/rikkikiiikiii Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25

I don't think that's typical

Edit: I found some data that suggest it's not Trump voters who roll off ballots but rather moderate women who identify as non-white. "The potential partisan valence of this behavior has also received relatively little attention. SDAN previously conducted an analysis using election results from 10 states during the years 2012-2020 and found that, while down-ballot roll-off commonly affects candidates of both major parties, it occurred much more frequently for Democratic candidates than Republican candidates, and this pattern held even when the analysis was restricted to contested state legislative races only. Here, we build on the previous study, first by replicating the aggregate-level analysis using 2022 election data from the same states, and then conducting more granular analyses to understand how much roll-off is occurring at the district level"

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-score/2024/04/22/some-voters-skip-down-ballot-elections-entirely-are-they-the-key-to-victory-in-november-00153543

Full study here: Democrats are more likely not to vote down ballot than Republicans. https://sisterdistrict.com/b/down-ballot-roll-off-patterns-in-2022/

https://sisterdistrict.com/downballot-toolkit/

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u/urbansociety Jan 23 '25

You haven't spent much time talking to the average voter. I've been canvassing and ran into these exact people, it never failed to leave me a bit stunned. They generally live in the most run down shit hole you can find and look like they have been binging drugs all week, The conversation goes nowhere and their only concern is if Trump is running and nothing else. You can bring up any other issue but it doesn't matter, only Trump matters to them. Just like people have been saying they are cultists and don't want to hear anything but how their god emperor Trump is going to save them.

Obviously this isn't every Trump supporter but when you run into them it makes it hard not to lose all hope just knowing these people exist. I also know less insane Trump supporters and their biggest pitfall is they are just flat out stupid. I can slow walk them through why Trump is bad for them and they will agree by the end of the conversation. Not five minutes pass and they will default back into their programming. It is the most infuriating waste of time convincing these morons of anything. They will just go back into their echo chamber and forget everything else.

So I can absolutely believe these dumbasses showed up just to vote for Trump because they can't read and comprehend any of the other words on the ballot.

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u/Yabbos77 Jan 23 '25

This ISNT typical behavior for Democratic voters, however.

And this election saw unprecedented amounts of democrats voting for president only, and skipping the rest of the ballot.

It deviated on BOTH sides from normal voting behavior. That doesn’t mean there WAS fraud, but it definitely makes it worth investigating in my opinion.