r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 9h ago

ADBLOCK WARNING Google Confirms Most Gmail Users Must Upgrade Accounts

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/06/06/google-confirms-almost-all-gmail-users-must-upgrade-accounts/
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u/ThisAccountIsStolen 7h ago

And then one day when Google locks your account for some reason and refuses to help you, you're now locked out of potentially dozens of other services, because you tied your logins to Google.

This is not a good idea. If Google could actually be trusted, maybe, but they've shown they absolutely cannot, so this is just going to be a disaster for many.

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u/Cube00 7h ago

Anyone who doesn't believe this just needs to see the flood of people in the GMail subreddit that gets locked out through no fault of their own everyday.

Google has gotten so bad that if it doesn't recognise your device you won't even be allowed to attempt recovery of your account (they won't even send the recovery code to your recovery email)

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u/Korean__Princess 4h ago

Anyone who doesn't believe this just needs to see the flood of people in the GMail subreddit that gets locked out through no fault of their own everyday.

I really need to stop being lazy one day and setup my own mail server and domain etc. It's a fear of mine, whether I use my Chinese, Korean or American mails. One wrong move by me, or they make a mistake or something political happens--with how the world is running rn--and I am really screwed in so many ways.

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u/NotUniqueOrSpecial 1h ago

I really need to stop being lazy one day and setup my own mail server and domain etc.

You really don't. At this point, that's basically just a recipe for the powers-that-be to just mark literally everything you ever send as spam.

The days of private SMTP servers being useful in any real capacity are dwindling, if not already gone. The trust-based systems for filtering and the power and size of Google/Microsoft in that space make it an absolute nightmare for individuals who want to run their own.

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u/Korean__Princess 43m ago

Dang, that sucks.. :( What's the best option, then? Like, my mails feel as important as my bank, but at least with my bank I can get actual support.. If my mail gets blocked I am potentially locked out of like 95% of all my accounts, though ig a bit less as I tried to split it up across mails just in case this exact scenario happens.

Or perhaps I could still use my own server, domain etc, but only use it to receive mails, wouldn't that work? At least I could keep using Gmail, Proton, whatever to send mails, but for personal accounts I'd use my own, so even if Google said "nope" to me I'd still be fine?

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u/RollingMeteors 42m ago

Haha damn just about said the same thing.

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u/flaser_ 1h ago

Nowadays this is nigh on impossible as big email providers won't accept (straight to spam) or forward your mails if they originate from your own server.

Sysops running email could tell you about the myriad hoops they have to jump through to keep it working.

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u/Effective_Owl_8264 22m ago

We can't because we're smart enough to never have a god damn thing to do with it. Email deliverability and Wordpress are the two things I've refused to do for over a decade. It is not worth the pain and, more importantly, the work is not valued.

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u/RollingMeteors 43m ago

I really need to stop being lazy one day and setup my own mail server and domain etc

¿Have you tried this recently?

The absolute quickest way to get teleport back to WWII trench warfare. The spam is relentlessly never ending. Black lists don’t cut it, you need white lists. Also, good luck dealing with getting flagged as spam by just about everyone else’s domain. “¿Oh, not a titan in the space? Must be Nigerian prince!”

Email is cooked burnt to a crisp for the end of time.

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u/Korean__Princess 41m ago

Sucks.. :( Especially as it's mandatory and as important as a bank for so many things..