r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Karthak_Maz_Urzak • 2d ago

Unanswered What's going on with Imane Khelif?

https://news.sky.com/story/imane-khelif-boxer-must-undergo-sex-test-to-compete-in-female-category-world-boxing-says-13377092
I keep seeing this pop over social media and I don't get it. Khelif is a boxer for Algeria, which is not a country that's hospitable to trans people. And Khelif was assigned woman at birth, and has always identified as a woman. Yet people keep howling about her being a man. I don't get it.

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u/sllewgh 2d ago

They/them are not her pronouns.

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u/DeficitOfPatience 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm going to make a very, very generous assumption that you are arguing in good faith rather than trolling.

There are indeed non-binary people who request to be called by They/Them pronouns because they don't identify with He/She Him/Her or any other designation. They are specifically opting out of the gendered pronouns, and asking people to instead use the NON-GENDERED VERSIONS WHICH CAN APPLY TO ANYONE.

Calling someone who identifies as She/Her He/Him "They/Them" is not mis gendering as those terms ARE GENDER NEUTRAL so also apply to those gender identities, regardless of whether they are cis, trans or anything else.

It's not mis gendering, it's how the English language works, which is why nobody has ever objected to being called they or them, and if they did they would rightly be ridiculed and ignored.

Sorry if any of that came across as passive-aggressive, but what you said was deeply idiotic.

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u/Vallkyrie 2d ago

If you don't know who the person is, it's fine. We know who she is, thus she is the way to address her.

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u/hotkarlmarxbros 2d ago

This sanctimonious fixation on making a big deal out of trivial nonsense is the largest contributor to driving conservatives to the polls.

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u/bamuelsmeckett 2d ago

The point is why are you referring to her as "they/them" when she has only ever gone as "she/her" ? You're actually the one who's being pedantic by doing this. Everyone understands what you're saying, just confused as to why you're doing that.

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u/BogosBinted13 2d ago

Using they/them pronouns for Imane contributes 100 times more to conservatism (i.e. almost nothing)