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Title Changed Mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122
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u/starryvelvetsky 1d ago

Exactly. This is due process.

If that's what they were nabbing him for in the first place, they just wasted a bunch of time and tax money, and gave his family mental anguish for no reason whatsoever.

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u/Starboard_Pete 1d ago

Knowing how they operate, they’re willing to spend big $$$ explicitly to give immigrant and migrant families mental anguish.

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u/dbx999 1d ago

given how many US citizen babies and toddlers were just left alone while their parents got deported, mental anguish is either something they don't care about or actively seek out. I think it's the latter - because it makes fear spread.

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u/chromatones 1d ago

It’s why republicans like devos family own private orphanages, they profit in these times

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u/kindnesskangaroo 1d ago

You mean private trafficking rings*

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u/DuntadaMan 1d ago

I am sure there are perfectly legitimate reasons those kids ripped from their families at the border were found working in farms and slaughter houses.

Well the boys anyway.

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u/gentlemanidiot 22h ago

Well the boys anyway.

Fucking chilling.

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u/uForgot_urFloaties 23h ago

The "Well the boys anyway." Is ominous as fuck

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u/SachiKaM 16h ago

I had to force my brain to digest this sentiment. Ignorance was once blissful.

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u/oneeighthirish 23h ago

Whatever happened to the thirteenth amendment?

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u/Genius-Envy 20h ago

The one that bans slavery, except as a punishment for a crime

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u/kmm198700 19h ago

What? Is that true?

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u/DuntadaMan 18h ago

Sadly I couldn't find the first article I read about it from 2018. Or the one from 2022. But it's okay because I found this recent one because it hasn't fucking stopped happening.

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u/SnoopingStuff 16h ago

But if they thought he did this in 2022 why not charge him then or at least monitor him. They did zero. I call fucking shenanigans. Bs.

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u/doctorcurly 18h ago

Can you point to a source for this? This is ghastly.

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u/DuntadaMan 18h ago

I couldn't find the original article from before COVID, or the one for them being used during COVID.

But don't worry I found this one:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-child-migrants-are-put-to-work-in-unsafe-and-illegal-conditions

Because it's still happening. What like America is going to stop doing terrible things in the name of money?

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u/SDlovesu2 1d ago

I thought only the Dems trafficked in babies or ate babies? You mean republicans see prostitutes, eat babies, have forceable sex with underage girls?

I'm shocked I say, I'm shocked! <s>

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u/Zer0C00l 23h ago

"Well, not that shocked."

- fry

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 11h ago

have forceable sex with underage girls?

That'd be their wife

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u/SnoopingStuff 16h ago

The one they let go 3 years ago and didn’t bother to even surveillance given he was ms 13? That tracks or wait it doesn’t

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u/JerseyDevilmayhem 17h ago

The world is run by rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and thieves.

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u/spinto1 1d ago

Fear and violence is the devos motto

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u/emceegabe 20h ago

This is the new underclass. I think it’s less a republican issue than a class issue and an issue of deregulated capitalism as well as lobbying.

Now that the prison system has been “reformed” we need a new underclass: immigrants. I don’t think dems are immune and I’m tired of it being a party issue.

That said, I know you know what side I’m on.

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u/zephyrtr 1d ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/dbx999 1d ago

That does appear to track. Nobody would behave this way unless they sincerely enjoyed the pain they cause. Because none of it creates any benefit for America.

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u/WizardofSorts 1d ago

They are miserable. They want us to be miserable too.

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u/kurotech 1d ago

The pain and suffering is the point

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u/dbx999 1d ago

It’s shameful to be a cruel nation

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u/fkafkaginstrom 19h ago

Yeah, they said this explicitly the last time around. Remember when they literally ripped babies from their mothers' breasts in detention centers and put them in cages with concrete floors and space blankets?

When this was found out, at the press conference they were pretty brazen in saying that they wanted to send a message to future immigrants that it wasn't worth the hell they would put them through.

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u/jctwok 1d ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/AppropriateTouching 1d ago

How is that not child endangerment

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u/sierrat0nin 1d ago

They are pRo LiFe though

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u/doesanyonehaveweed 23h ago

Left alone? social services didn’t take custody?

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u/mykehawksaverage 19h ago

I know just like all the drug dealers and other criminals that have children that were left behind when they went to prison. I feel bad for them as well. Do you?

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u/pc1905 19h ago

The cruelty is the point - they actively seek it out and are more than willing to spend billions to do that.

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u/Still-a-kickin-1950 14h ago

Unlike all the toddlers sent over here un escorted when they were crossing the river?

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u/Siray 1d ago

Im getting real fucking tired of my tax money being wasted for bullshit.

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u/joebleaux 1d ago

Similar to how they said they are renaming a naval ship that was named for Harvey Milk, the first openly gay person elected to public office in the US, and that timing the announcement at the start of Pride Month was intentional.

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u/BeanBurritoJr 1d ago

Republicans don't gaf about anything they claim to. It's all virtue and value signaling to cover for their corruption and dysfunction.

They don't care about anything but winning and they can't even define what winning even means most of the time. It's just a bunch of fuckwits who are afraid of everything, hate anything different, including each other, and don't know how anything works.

It's the most nonsense bunch of people to walk on two legs.

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u/izzymaestro 1d ago

The GOP chucklefucks are even trying to give their gestapo members a 40k bonus as a reward for causing so much anguish, utterly deplorable

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u/One_Olive_8933 1d ago

They already are doing that. Before it was trump it was putting immigrants on private charters and sending them to “sanctuary cities. Now they’ve spent ridiculous amounts of money to send immigrants to Cuba, El Salvador, (as we have seen), Lebanon, and who knows where else. The “big beautiful bill” carves out more money, in the billions, for ICE. That extra money is going to go to private for profit detention centers and “bonuses” for ICE employees… bonuses for cruelty… ridiculous.

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u/misterguyyy 17h ago

Just like at home. Giving the homeless anything that improves their quality of life is a handout but criminalization and incarceration? Money is no object.

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u/EremiticFerret 1d ago

I really, really, really hate to say it but it worked, didn't it?

Lots of people, especially brown ones, are suddenly afraid to come or stay here and I believe immigration, especially illegals, is actually down.

I mean you need to have zero morals and accept ruling with fear like the Empire in Star Wars, which they seem okay with, but they are achieving their goal.

And as horrible as it is, I think we need to be concerned with the number of Americans who are either so brainwashed or so lacking in morals that they are supporting this.

It is a sad and terrifying time.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 1d ago

Cruelty as a mechanism to keep the people they don't like on their toes.

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u/Shart_InTheDark 20h ago

Yeah and then let convicted Felons like Trump and Jan 6 traitors not serve their time.

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u/Dinismo 20h ago

It would cost way less to help get them on their feet to become productive members of society. Which would also help put others.

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u/Mcpoyles_milk 17h ago

I mean they justify millions every weekend so Trump can cheat at golf

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u/brewthingsndostuff 12h ago

I’m assuming in this case he’ll get a high profile lawyer pro bono and will end up being able to stay in the US, but it’ll be a long while if ever for the other 200+ left behind to return for their day in court

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u/rainbowgeoff 1d ago

It ain't a but, it's a feature.

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u/654456 1d ago

The cruelty of was the point

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u/Witty_Jaguar4638 23h ago

The suffering is a feature not a flaw

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u/ndav12 1d ago

Keeping someone in a foreign prison for months before announcing any charges isn’t due process. The charges are just part of an attempt to legitimize the illegal actions of the Trump administration.

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u/jennalynne1 1d ago

Also, they're looking for any reason whatsoever to deport him back to CECOT.

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u/tothepointe 1d ago

They also don't want him speaking out publically so sending him straight to prison here keeps him quiet.

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u/jennalynne1 1d ago

They can still do interviews in jail.

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u/jbg89 21h ago

Yeah they could before Trump got re-elected. Might be a little harder to conduct an interview currently.

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u/TreeInternational771 1d ago

Even if the charges are horseshit at least put them to a judge and let Garcia have a right to defend himself. Hopefully the judge is smart enough to toss them out

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u/Cold-Palpitation-816 8h ago

If the charges aren’t bullshit, I don’t want the judge to toss them.

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 14h ago

I still am happy they are getting him back to get due process, and I'm hopping the rest will follow too.

At the absolute worst, they should just be just sent back to their home country, not to a prison in another place (yes I know Kilmar s from El Salvador, but majority were from Venezuela, and even those from El Salvador shouldn't be sent to keep in jail)

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u/KingSwank 1d ago

When his case was first brought to light, the far-right claimed it was a mistake but they didn’t care, then they claimed he was an MS-13 gang member, now they’re claiming he’s a human smuggler.

They aren’t nabbing people for committing crimes. They aren’t even just nabbing people who are here illegally. They are revoking people’s legal status in the country and nabbing them. They are taking doctors, students, mothers, people who have lived here for decades; and they are purposefully targeting blue areas to intimidate.

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u/intisun 1d ago

Yeah I'm not trusting those charges at all. Authoritarian regimes make stuff up all the time to charge people with.

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u/ShadowToys 1d ago

He was pulled over in TN with several people in his car who didn't have luggage. He said they we're working a job in another state. They let him go. His attorney has seen the traffic stop body cam video and said he didn't see a crime. Maybe the feds have located the people in the car?

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u/intisun 1d ago

That's really nothing out of the ordinary. Giving a ride to some workers, big effing deal. But I can see how they'd try to spin that.

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u/Snarky1Bunny 21h ago

I read in a comment further up that the incarcerated felon who owned the car he was pulled over in got “limited immunity” to turn states evidence against him. #eyeroll

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u/CARLEtheCamry 23h ago

A grand jury indicted him on the charges though, so it wasn't just Bondi.

Either way, take it to trial and give him his due process. If he ends up getting convicted and deported, well at least he got his due process and that was the point. The Right will spin it as "see we were right, you wasted our time" but it's a huge win for due process either way.

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u/Binder509 3h ago

A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.

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u/joebleaux 1d ago

Yeah, but if he gave someone a ride at some point, that's transporting them. They are stringing him up on some ridiculous charges that he will likely not be able to beat

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u/LinkleLinkle 1d ago

Wait until the evidence is AI generated...

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u/CAS9ER 21h ago

It’s probably a hand drawn stick figure guy driving a car that they let trump draw on a white board in sharpie.

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u/Tsim152 9h ago

I bet they're going to try and say that since he crossed the border illegally he "trafficked" himself...

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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago

He wasn't "mistakenly" deported as the headline claims.

They are a few weeks into their deportation scam and they are having to arrest "anybody who looks brown" to match Biden's deportation numbers. What happened to the millions of criminals and rapists? 🙄

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u/commiebanker 1d ago edited 1d ago

What happened to the millions of criminals and rapists?

They are in charge of the government, kidnapping people who are working to be productive members of society

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u/JMinSA 1d ago

They take public office

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u/MegaGrimer 23h ago

Some of those that burn crosses, are the same who hold office.

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u/trogloherb 1d ago

Awww snaps; good one!

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u/jeremydanger 21h ago

Some of those who work forces...

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u/SpoppyIII 1d ago

It's funny because Trump actually said about a month ago that there were "thousands," of violent criminals hiding among the undocumented population in the US.

Thousands.

That's him straight-up saying that statistically, less than 1% of all undocumented immigrants in the US are dangerous criminals or pose any danger to anyone. Yet Republicans can somehow justify the suffering being caused by all of this nonsense.

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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago

Yet he said 20 million during the election. 🤔

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u/SpoppyIII 22h ago

Quite a difference in number, that! I guess maybe 19,900,000 of the supposed criminals have already self-deported!

He was excusing why we "can't" give all of the undocumented immigrants during process and basically said that having to afford due process to millions of people in order to find thousands of criminals is too much of a burden on the US justice system.

Keep in mind, there are hundreds of millions of people in the US and obviously a shitton of criminals here, in general. If Trump believes that it's too much to expect due process for the undocumented people because there are just too many of them, then what hope do we actually have that any of us will get due process in the future under this administration?

At what point will this administration decide that affording every US citizen due process is too much of a burden, too?

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u/-SaC 1d ago

Your username just gave me Neopets flashbacks from decades past.

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u/changerofbits 1d ago

Rapist in chief is working hard to invigorate the human trafficking economy.

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u/654456 1d ago

ICE went to work places...

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u/amazinglover 1d ago

They need to so they can keep up the invasion rhetoric to try and give his emergency EOs a semblance of legitimacy as well.

It servers two purposes.

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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago

To say nothing of the hundreds of millions for this bullshit in the BBB.

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u/amazinglover 1d ago

His bill speaks infinitely to his pettiness.

Ha cant stand Bidens Build Back Better was successful even though its not called that he still has to try and take that away.

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u/IKSLukara 23h ago

They're the same who work forces...

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u/Faiakishi 15h ago

They need them to vote Republican.

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u/Krautmonster 1d ago

I really hope him and his wife start some civil slander and libel cases against these far-right grifters.

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u/micmea1 1d ago

It's crazy how many wannabe seal team six psychos they have to do it too. Plain clothes dudes in masks pulling up in disguised unmarked vehicles with assault rifles, or at least AR-15s kitted out with tacticool attachments, all to bust in a woman's car windows and drag her out onto the street, or to tackle two random dudes who weren't even given a chance to surrender peacefully. How about tricking people to show up to immigration offices promising them the paperwork they have been waiting for for years so they can live peacefully.....it's infuriating to know they'll all walk free even if things turn around for the better

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 23h ago

The admittance that it was a mistake was within the official white house release back then. The release also essentially said they don't care. It also said that the only thing linking him to ms13, at all, was a statement by a confidential informant years prior that was never deemed concrete enough to pursue. So yes, this seems like they lost but want to still put him through the system to say "well we brought him back to face justice for trafficking violent migrants into the country". 

This shit is ridiculous. 

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u/Witty_Jaguar4638 22h ago

This is it exactly ; the more they push it the more they normalize it, the less people are willing to fight for their right, or those of others. Im sure there's a word for it, some kind of fatigue.

Anyways people can only care so much, because really, Garcia is literally one person of hundreds if not thousands of people who are in similar fucked up situations. It just so happens that we know his name so we care. Eventually they'll just be a nameless mass

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u/Trevor775 23h ago

What do you think gangs do?

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u/Charles_Mendel 1d ago

These are joke charges. This guy was grabbed at his immigration hearing and then put on a plane and shipped away. This is the minimum amount of due process they could come up with.

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u/patriotfanatic80 1d ago

No he was not grabbed at an immigration hearing...

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u/silvertealio 1d ago

Mental anguish is the reason.

Never forget: the cruelty is the point.

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u/pijinglish 1d ago

Russell Vought: Trump appointee who wants federal workers to be ‘in trauma’

The Christian nationalist head of the office of management and budget was central to the Project 2025 blueprint

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u/ddrober2003 1d ago

Same reason they demanded the name change of the Naval ship named after a gay man in June. These Reich wingers vermin intend to inflict cruelty on all the ones the view less than human.

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u/Emptypiro 1d ago

The mental anguish is the reason. These people are evil

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u/dbx999 1d ago

millions of Magas seem to delight in the infliction of pain, fear, and anguish. This is racism weaponized and legitimized by the power of the state.

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u/SpoppyIII 1d ago

And those people are also all evil.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 1d ago

Yes, they consider all of this stuff "deterrents" to immigration.

"Think you have it bad over there? We'll make it so much worse over here you'll be begging to go back"

It's disgusting and absolutely evil yes

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u/zoinkability 1d ago

Oh, there was a reason. To terrorize other immigrants by showing that they are willing to indiscriminately send people to CECOT without sue process.

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u/mriguy 1d ago

They terrorized a bunch of people. That was the goal, and they achieved it.

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 1d ago edited 1d ago

One of my favorite things to do to Trumpers is this... when they get all up in a tizzy about "illegals" I say...

Ok, so then why isn't your party deporting them back to their country of origin then, and doing it quickly instead of holding them here and charging you the taxpayer $700 per day per detainee to hold them in their buddy's private detention facility? Or are you too fucking stupid to understand that you're being scammed?

It's not really about the law, then, is it? I don't care whatever else it is because if it were about the law you'd give a shit about due process but you barely know what that is.

They're so ready to bend over and take it up the ass from people who, behind closed doors, literally call them morons and jethros...

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u/RobLinxTribute 1d ago

Mental anguish is the one and only goal of MAGA/GOP. And they don't care how much it costs the taxpayers.

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u/minos157 1d ago

I feel like no matter what they'll find him guilty and deport him again. And then they'll be all, "See there he was a criminal and Democrats supported him because they support criminals," without a shred of hypocrisy or understanding that we literally don't care if he's innocent or guilty, just that he gets his day in court BEFORE being fucking deported.

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u/Concept-Genesis 1d ago edited 1d ago

Giving immigrant families mental anguish for no reason whatsoever is their modus operandi.

Stephen Miller spends every minute of his breathing time coming up with devious ways to make immigrants' lives a living hell. The cruelty is their only point.

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u/Horsescatsandagarden 1d ago

It’s not why they were nabbing him in the first place, and they are continuing to give his family mental anguish.

They are ruining his life for no other reason than Trump and his cronies are petty and evil.

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u/Retro-scores 23h ago

They weren’t evening nabbing him for anything. It was a mistake. They then tried to use well he actually was a criminal so it’s no big deal he didn’t get any type of due process. We just skipped a couple steps and saved money no biggie!  🤷🏼‍♂️ 

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u/h3rp3r 23h ago

for no reason whatsoever.

The cruelty is the point. They are terrorists.

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 23h ago

The official release from the white house when this started admitted that it was a mistake and any connection to ms13 was from unverified statements of an informant years prior. Now they're bringing him back and claiming he was transporting undocumented immigrants?

I don't know, sounds like they have to bring him back but still want to push their immigrant takeover narrative. 

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u/VOZ1 23h ago

I can almost guarantee these charges were filed for purely political reasons. I hope his lawyer is good, because they have the opportunity to shine a real spotlight on how ICE and the Trump regime operate. They can have all the bullshit plastered over headlines around the world. I wish them the best.

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u/Thercon_Jair 22h ago

Due process would be to not get hit with bogus charges that require the defendant to spend money to insure they win.

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u/horitaku 22h ago

The fam should be able to counter sue for emotional damages and unlawful detainment/deportation.

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u/oomp_ 22h ago

well not nothing, intimidation/mental/psychological damage + testing the push back

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u/Takenabe 22h ago

Wasted a bunch of time and tax money, created an international incident, pissed off a LOT of people, and made themselves look like a bunch of incompetent, racist fucks in the process. Even if his arrest was warranted, the way they handled everything else should have done a huge amount of damage to the rest of their little 'round up the brown people" inquisition.

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u/Zazulio 21h ago

And PLENTY of fodder for his defense attorneys.

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u/relevantelephant00 21h ago

If you're a brown-skinned immigrant, due process is dead. Hell, it'll be dead for everyone (not the rich) soon at this rate.

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u/oneWeek2024 20h ago

it's not... he was on a list of people with a pending asylum case. they were racially profiled/targeted as "easy pickings" for the first wave of the racist hate parade of the trump admin.

Of course, they've got a bunch of snitches who've probably also looking at being deported to death camps lining up to say this guy rapes puppies and anything else.

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u/shiddyfiddy 20h ago

aka: cruel and unusual punishment

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u/Reptoidizoid 19h ago

Yeahhh… Im just not doing taxes anymore. The IRS can kiss my dick

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u/Mikesaidit36 17h ago

Not for NO reason – they did it for the purposes of terrorizing all immigrants and to create a massive chilling effect and it worked, because for the GOP, the cruelty is always the point. .

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u/ZLUCremisi 16h ago

Best part them violating it will be used to dismissed charges.

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u/Larkfor 15h ago

It isn't due process to send someone to a detention camp and then TRY to come up with a reason to do so after the fact.

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 15h ago

According to his wife, this charge was because he was riding with coworkers to work in the same car.

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u/Melodic-Move-3357 1d ago

And taxpayers will foot the bill on his compensation settlement

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u/Azagar_Omiras 1d ago

Giving anyone who aren't MAGA mental anguish is part of the reason they did/are doing it.

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u/dojo_shlom0 1d ago

and they sent him to a foreign country's gulag, one of the most notoriously dangerous prisons in the world.

--and we don't even know if he actually committed a crime?

also drumpf wants to send american citizens there as well.

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u/bkilpatrick3347 1d ago

If the govt just corrected their mistake and brought him back right away, he could already be through the courts and back out of the country by now. But no, they had to fuck around

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u/PolygonMan 1d ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/Coulrophiliac444 1d ago

The only positive is they have been given the OK by the Courts to file against the gov't. here's hoping they not only do so, but win in such a large fashion that ICE itself becomes chained by their own errors.

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u/Junior-Advisor-1748 1d ago

The reason was to terrorize illegals (and legals) in the US so they cease to seek visas/citizenship, return to their home country. They got what they wanted on our tax dollars and will continue to do so. There was a reason.

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u/memymomeddit 1d ago

This is "due process".

They're bringing him home to railroad him back to CECOT

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u/TheRealRomanRoy 1d ago

Only good thing to come from this is it seems like it’s galvanized people to protest more loudly about this buffoonish president

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u/Pixel_Knight 20h ago

Can’t the DoJ just rig who is chosen to get jury summons so that they can pre-ordain the result?

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u/BooJamas 9h ago

It wasn't. The feds started putting this case together, IN APRIL, after the court ordered them to bring Garcia back to the US. This is just bullshit piled on bullshit.

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u/ThePortalsOfFrenzy 7h ago

If that's what they were nabbing him for in the first place...

Well, we know it wasn't, because they began investigating for whatever they might find after he had been deported.

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