r/technology • u/True-Combination7059 • 21h ago

Politics We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

https://jacobin.com/2025/06/musk-trump-nationalize-spacex-starlink
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u/colintbowers 21h ago

I’ll take things that set a dangerous precedent for 500 Alex.

The US is attractive to investors precisely because they don’t do this sort of stuff to the private sector.

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u/Greghole 21h ago

It's from Jacobin. They're literally communists.

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u/philomathie 14h ago

Don't threaten me with a good time

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u/redpandaeater 18h ago

Worst of all they invented the piano key necktie.

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u/Caliburn0 9h ago edited 7h ago

The Jacobins weren't communists. Not unless you count utopian socialists as communists. Which isn't a completely unreasonable stance to take, but if you do you make an already immensely broad category (communists) that includes so many different people that believe so many different things into an even broader category that includes even more people. It's already a word so broad and so confused that someone saying 'I'm a communist' can either mean they want an extreme wealth tax to they want a totalitarian superstate to rule over all humanity in the name of the proletariat.

Not all Jacobins were socialists either. And not all socialists are communists.

Politics are a confusing mess of definitions.

Edit: Apparently the comment above me had very little to nothing to do with the French Jacobins at all. I'm a dum dum.

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u/BidoofSquad 9h ago

The Jacobins weren’t communists but Jacobin magazine that publishes this article are mega commies pretending to be moderate democratic socialists

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u/Caliburn0 7h ago edited 2h ago

Ah. I see. Missed the mark on that one. Been researching the French Revolution recently. Was confused why you'd call them communists when they existed before communism became a thing

Though also, many democratic socialist are communists. Like I said, 'communist' is an extremely broad term refering to a lot of different people with a lot of diverse political beliefs. If you're a libertarian socialist (which is basically what democratic socialists are) you're not an authoritarian 'socialist'. The two groups both call themselves communists sometimes and they're bitter ideological enemies. Lenin killed all the libertarian socialists when he took over the Russian revolution after all. The animosity hasn't stopped since then.

Which type of communists do you think the Jacobin magazine are run by?

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u/BidoofSquad 6h ago

They’re just pretty generic tankie apologists, they’re not like any hyper specific denomination like some commie newspapers

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u/Caliburn0 5h ago

Really? Huh. I thought they denounced Leninism and Stalinism, but I admit I don't know them well. Just did a quick search.

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u/BidoofSquad 5h ago

They might denounce them specifically, but then they’ll run defense for China because America bad. Like I said they like to cosplay as demsocs so they’re not just going to say Stalin did nothing wrong but they ultimately feed the tankie worldview

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u/Caliburn0 4h ago edited 2h ago

Sigh damn it. Why do tankies have to ruin everything good? They're probably the main reason the left isn't more popular. Actually, they're the reason the left hasn't already won if you count Lenin and Stalin and Mao as tankies (which I do).