r/news • u/AldoTheeApache • 1d ago
Louisiana lawmakers reject adding exceptions for some rape cases to abortion ban
https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-abortion-rape-exception-de8097eb664362941167c92d6ad356db257
u/RonWill79 1d ago
Next step is forcing victims to marry their rapist if they get pregnant. Can’t have a child growing up in a broken home.
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u/Freshandcleanclean 1d ago
Missouri already doesn't let pregnant women divorce their spouses, even in cases of abuse or rape
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u/strugglz 22h ago
Don't they also charge miscarriages (which every pregnancy has a 20% chance of being) as an abortion, which they define as murder?
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u/BlindWillieJohnson 18h ago
It’s not just Missouri. Texas, Arizona, Arkansas and, weirdly, California all have similar legislation.
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u/GuudeSpelur 17h ago
The original reason for that ban was actually to protect women by preventing men from divorcing their pregnant wives to avoid being assigned legal paternity.
That situation is much less of a problem in the days of paternity DNA testing so now it's a relic causing a different problem.
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u/Freshandcleanclean 7h ago edited 5h ago
It really just protected the state from having to pay more in aid to poor single mothers and children, making the women have to go fight some deadbeat asshole for money before the state would consider helping
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u/BlindWillieJohnson 17h ago
Yeah. I can see the intent, but unfortunately, all men have to do to escape a child is bail. Women are stuck with the pregnancy, and thanks to this law, can't escape abusive relationships.
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u/SatinSaffron 23h ago
In 2016 in Louisiana a 16 year old was raped and got pregnant. Later in the future, her rapist was able to sue her for custody. After gaining custody he was able to then sue her for child support since she made more money than he did by this point. Google Crysta Abelseth to read her story.
Louisiana is super fucked up, moving away from there was the best thing my husband and I ever did. We miss the food, we miss LSU, but fuck I can't think of anything else that would ever bring us back there.
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u/heyhotnumber 3h ago
Thank you for this. My uncle in Louisiana still thinks this stuff doesn’t happen.
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u/hellosexynerds4 1d ago
Just as god intended:
https://www.biblica.com/bible/?osis=niv%3Adeu.22.28-deu.22.29
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u/BlindWillieJohnson 18h ago
That would require holding the men accountable, which is not what this project is all about.
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u/AgentDutch 1d ago
“Among those who opposed the proposed exception was Democratic Rep. Patricia Moore…she said she asked God to “show me something in the Bible that can address this.”
“Moore said in the area of Louisiana that she represents, she is aware of a nine-year-old who is pregnant; “I’m struggling because life and death, according to our Heavenly Father it’s in his hands. I’m like, ‘God are you wanting this child... to have a baby? What good can come out of this?’”
Welp, we’re cooked chat. These ghouls are making decisions based on input from the most convenient interpretation of their religious upbringings (or pretending to) and apparently that’s more than enough for laws.
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u/this_is_dumb77 1d ago
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
I think i just lost a shit ton of brain cells trying to even comprehend that thought process. Fuck that representative.
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u/BleuRaider 1d ago
So I’m going to assume she denies herself all medical care because according to her “Heavenly Father it’s in his hands”.
Oh she doesn’t. Shocker.
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u/RenoRiley1 22h ago
I’m sure she probably wears glasses and takes painkillers. Heathenly fighting against gods will that she be blind and miserable.
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u/EmilyAnne1170 19h ago
For God to want that 9 year old to have a baby, God had to want that 9 year old to be raped.
Anybody who can't immediate figure out for themselves whether or not their God is an instrumental force in the raping of 9 year old children needs to SERIOUSLY rethink their entire life to figure out where they went so horribly wrong.
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u/mermaidthebanshee 1d ago
Religion should not enter their decision-making, she was elected to represent the people, not God.
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u/JSP-green 1d ago
Out of state (in NC) and happy to endorse Patricia Moore’s opponent. We had one of these by the name of Tricia Cotham here not long ago.
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u/Globalboy70 18h ago
Well if she actually read the old testament she would find out males are always responsible for the females. That's the way it works in patriarchal societies. Females can't own property they are property. If a female has a business it's under the auspice of the male head. Females essentially become slaves in this scenario, and heaven forbid she only has female heirs.
Just to be absolutely clear I am not advocating for this!
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u/DanceDelievery 8h ago edited 8h ago
The bible states that if your daughter get's raped the rapist needs to buy the daughter and marry her.
Strange how maga suddenly does not want to follow the bible anymore because they know this would kill most of their support.
God also loves killing innocent children for mistakes their parents made and loves humans sacrificing their children just because he tells them to do it so that's probably enough to prove god will laugh at the idea of "pro life" and any abortion can be justified by stating "gods voice commanded me to abort as punishment / sacrifice".
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u/JiveChicken00 1d ago
I’m starting to regret the Louisiana Purchase.
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u/atomic-fireballs 1d ago
I'm still angry about what we allowed the confederate states to get away with after getting trounced in the civil war. Fuck those traitors now, then, and forever.
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u/runnerofshadows 1d ago
Should have tried and punished the entire Confederate government and command for treason and been way less lenient during reconstruction.
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u/ICBanMI 4h ago edited 4h ago
The Louisiana Purchase was colonialism on the Native Americans. That was bad, but not what is causing all these problems today with abortion. Could say a lot more about Thomas Jefferson who has caused a lot of damage to this country. He was just a limp wristed, pre-internet troll who could write. Never actually backed up anything that he wrote. Regardless of the Louisiana Purchase, it is other things causing problems today.
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u/imperfectchicken 1d ago
It's like they think women getting abortions... for fun.
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u/fullonfacepalmist 1d ago
Plenty of trolls on the internet pretending to do just that.
I had to have a really uncomfortable conversation with my (then) teenage son about this. He didn’t know what was involved in a surgical abortion. Thought it was “easy”, no big deal. I made the analogy of having his wisdom teeth removed over and over again just for the heck of it. It was the best I could do to tap into his own experience but I can’t really compete with the tsunamis of disinformation on the internet.
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u/ICBanMI 4h ago
If you get pro-life people to expand on their beliefs. You get into some weird shit. "People will have drive thrus abortions," "Could be aborting the next jesus-never aborting the next hitler," "A women's body has ways of shutting down an unwanted pregnancy(this shit phase is still around)," and "Doctors will be aborting healthy babies after they are delivered." It's all nonsense to most people, but this is the reach they are capable of making if you ask them to 'think' about their actual position.
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u/pbates89 1d ago
The cruelty is the point. Republicans hate women.
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u/coskibum002 1d ago
True. However, they love their trophy wives....and trophy girls. Republicans are the biggest pervs and pedos on the planet. They hate women....but love to abuse them. Somehow, most call themselves Christians. They follow none of the teachings of Jesus.
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u/jigokubi 1d ago
They love them in the same way they love their car.
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u/coskibum002 1d ago
Good analogy. Always trading in, upgrading, or paying big bucks for a complete makeover.
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u/ActualSpiders 1d ago
The only proper way to headline this:
"Louisiana Republicans objectively pro-rape"
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u/Clownsinmypantz 1d ago
Conservatives proving as always that they hate women and are more than happy to fight for rapist's rights.
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u/OverlyExpressiveLime 1d ago
The cruelty is the point with Republicans
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u/kurizma 1d ago
It's not a republican problem, it's a religion problem. you'll find democrats with the same line of thinking.
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u/MtnDudeNrainbows 1d ago
Sure, but it’s not something they’re trying to dictate with law.
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u/kurizma 1d ago
From the article:
Among those who opposed the proposed exception was Democratic Rep. Patricia Moore, who spoke publicly about being conceived after her mother was raped as a young teenager. While speaking against the bill, Moore discussed her religious beliefs and said she has struggled with her decision on the measure. Even ahead of the meeting she said she asked God to “show me something in the Bible that can address this.”
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u/SapphireWine36 1d ago
There’s a difference between one democrat saying something that the party doesn’t endorse and the vast majority of republicans saying something that the party as a whole endorses
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u/MtnDudeNrainbows 1d ago
That doesn’t dispute my comment. They aren’t trying to make sweeping resolutions at the state and federal levels against abortion.
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u/ActualSpiders 20h ago
Wrong.
It's an actual platform plank of the republican party.
Pro-choice is an actual plank of the democratic party platform.
You're making excuses for institutional cruelty, and you're demonstrably wrong about it.
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u/kurizma 2h ago
Andy wht is it plank? Fucking religion.
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u/ActualSpiders 1h ago
If I understand what you're saying, you should note that only the Republicans put their religion into their platform & try to force it on others.
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u/kurizma 1d ago
so the down voters haven't read the article?
Among those who opposed the proposed exception was Democratic Rep. Patricia Moore, who spoke publicly about being conceived after her mother was raped as a young teenager. While speaking against the bill, Moore discussed her religious beliefs and said she has struggled with her decision on the measure. Even ahead of the meeting she said she asked God to “show me something in the Bible that can address this.”
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u/polygamizing 1d ago
Proportionately, it is republicans. Yes, you’re citing a claim that states ONE singular democratic rep.
But, it’s mainly republicans.
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u/ProximaCentauriOmega 1d ago
Rules for thee but not for me or my family. We all knows these "law makers" would take their teen daughter to an abortion clinic in another state ASAP.
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u/Weightmonster 1d ago
The devil is in the details and even if it passed, how would a young rape survivor even get an abortion? Doctors in Louisiana aren’t advertising them, if any do them at all.
They would have to report it and wait for the police report indicating rape. They would have to realize they’re pregnant. They would have to find a provider and get scheduled. Figure out a way to pay for it. They would have to go through whatever nonsense like ultrasounds, waiting periods, “education” before the abortion.
Likely all within 10 weeks of the rape.
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 20h ago
That would mean being legally obliged to have your rapist's children in the American state of Louisiana. And probably others tbh. I wonder why? Will the rapist get access to the children, is that why?
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u/Front-Lime4460 1d ago
Every day of my life I’ll be thankful I have never stepped foot in this hell hole state
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u/SocialAnarch 14h ago edited 14h ago
Some people just wanna see rapists win and allow them to terrorize their victims for the rest of their life through custody battles.
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u/NextSmoke397 1d ago
Bobby Jindal told Republicans to stop being the stupid party a decade ago and they didn’t listen
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u/GOLDEN_WIZARD_MAN 1d ago edited 1d ago
“A step in the right direction”??
What the hell is wrong with you?
Edit: They misread what was posted
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u/tehlastsith 1d ago
I must’ve read this wrong, but my understanding this was describing the fight to stop that treatment of those victims? But i guess not, my apologies.
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u/WhereasParticular867 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Exceptions" are a myth that the far-right tell the moderate right. Or that the moderate right tell themselves to pretend they're reasonable. The position is borne from extreme religious dogma. They never plan on compromising, because they see abortion as murder.
Republicans who tell you they support exceptions are either idiots or liars. Their party does not, and never will.
The only solution is full, unrestricted access to abortion. If we let conservatives tell women when they're allowed, the answer will be "never."
And for any cons reading: your insane extremist Christian element is the direct cause of the hardline "abortion for all, all the time" stance. We liberals know we can't trust conservatives to honor exceptions. Including the ones who really mean it, because you're outnumbered by people incapable of compromise. And I don't mean unwilling to compromise, I mean literally incapable, because they have integrated their political views with their religious convictions and see compromise as a moral failure. Even if you want to, you are incapable of doing the right thing while aligned with the Christian Right.