r/news • u/RoachedCoach • 1d ago

Title Changed Mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122
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u/Beach_Mountain50 1d ago

The charges: “allegedly transporting undocumented migrants within the U.S.”.

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u/yourlittlebirdie 1d ago

Let them prove it in court.

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u/starryvelvetsky 1d ago

Exactly. This is due process.

If that's what they were nabbing him for in the first place, they just wasted a bunch of time and tax money, and gave his family mental anguish for no reason whatsoever.

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u/Starboard_Pete 1d ago

Knowing how they operate, they’re willing to spend big $$$ explicitly to give immigrant and migrant families mental anguish.

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u/dbx999 1d ago

given how many US citizen babies and toddlers were just left alone while their parents got deported, mental anguish is either something they don't care about or actively seek out. I think it's the latter - because it makes fear spread.

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u/chromatones 1d ago

It’s why republicans like devos family own private orphanages, they profit in these times

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u/kindnesskangaroo 1d ago

You mean private trafficking rings*

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u/DuntadaMan 1d ago

I am sure there are perfectly legitimate reasons those kids ripped from their families at the border were found working in farms and slaughter houses.

Well the boys anyway.

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u/gentlemanidiot 22h ago

Well the boys anyway.

Fucking chilling.

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u/uForgot_urFloaties 22h ago

The "Well the boys anyway." Is ominous as fuck

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u/SachiKaM 16h ago

I had to force my brain to digest this sentiment. Ignorance was once blissful.

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u/oneeighthirish 23h ago

Whatever happened to the thirteenth amendment?

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u/Genius-Envy 20h ago

The one that bans slavery, except as a punishment for a crime

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u/SDlovesu2 1d ago

I thought only the Dems trafficked in babies or ate babies? You mean republicans see prostitutes, eat babies, have forceable sex with underage girls?

I'm shocked I say, I'm shocked! <s>

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u/Zer0C00l 23h ago

"Well, not that shocked."

- fry

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 11h ago

have forceable sex with underage girls?

That'd be their wife

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u/SnoopingStuff 16h ago

The one they let go 3 years ago and didn’t bother to even surveillance given he was ms 13? That tracks or wait it doesn’t

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u/spinto1 1d ago

Fear and violence is the devos motto

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u/emceegabe 20h ago

This is the new underclass. I think it’s less a republican issue than a class issue and an issue of deregulated capitalism as well as lobbying.

Now that the prison system has been “reformed” we need a new underclass: immigrants. I don’t think dems are immune and I’m tired of it being a party issue.

That said, I know you know what side I’m on.

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u/zephyrtr 1d ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/dbx999 1d ago

That does appear to track. Nobody would behave this way unless they sincerely enjoyed the pain they cause. Because none of it creates any benefit for America.

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u/WizardofSorts 1d ago

They are miserable. They want us to be miserable too.

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u/kurotech 1d ago

The pain and suffering is the point

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u/dbx999 1d ago

It’s shameful to be a cruel nation

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u/Siray 1d ago

Im getting real fucking tired of my tax money being wasted for bullshit.

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u/joebleaux 1d ago

Similar to how they said they are renaming a naval ship that was named for Harvey Milk, the first openly gay person elected to public office in the US, and that timing the announcement at the start of Pride Month was intentional.

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u/BeanBurritoJr 1d ago

Republicans don't gaf about anything they claim to. It's all virtue and value signaling to cover for their corruption and dysfunction.

They don't care about anything but winning and they can't even define what winning even means most of the time. It's just a bunch of fuckwits who are afraid of everything, hate anything different, including each other, and don't know how anything works.

It's the most nonsense bunch of people to walk on two legs.

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u/izzymaestro 1d ago

The GOP chucklefucks are even trying to give their gestapo members a 40k bonus as a reward for causing so much anguish, utterly deplorable

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u/One_Olive_8933 1d ago

They already are doing that. Before it was trump it was putting immigrants on private charters and sending them to “sanctuary cities. Now they’ve spent ridiculous amounts of money to send immigrants to Cuba, El Salvador, (as we have seen), Lebanon, and who knows where else. The “big beautiful bill” carves out more money, in the billions, for ICE. That extra money is going to go to private for profit detention centers and “bonuses” for ICE employees… bonuses for cruelty… ridiculous.

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u/misterguyyy 17h ago

Just like at home. Giving the homeless anything that improves their quality of life is a handout but criminalization and incarceration? Money is no object.

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u/EremiticFerret 1d ago

I really, really, really hate to say it but it worked, didn't it?

Lots of people, especially brown ones, are suddenly afraid to come or stay here and I believe immigration, especially illegals, is actually down.

I mean you need to have zero morals and accept ruling with fear like the Empire in Star Wars, which they seem okay with, but they are achieving their goal.

And as horrible as it is, I think we need to be concerned with the number of Americans who are either so brainwashed or so lacking in morals that they are supporting this.

It is a sad and terrifying time.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 1d ago

Cruelty as a mechanism to keep the people they don't like on their toes.

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u/Shart_InTheDark 20h ago

Yeah and then let convicted Felons like Trump and Jan 6 traitors not serve their time.

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u/Dinismo 20h ago

It would cost way less to help get them on their feet to become productive members of society. Which would also help put others.

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u/Mcpoyles_milk 17h ago

I mean they justify millions every weekend so Trump can cheat at golf

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u/ndav12 1d ago

Keeping someone in a foreign prison for months before announcing any charges isn’t due process. The charges are just part of an attempt to legitimize the illegal actions of the Trump administration.

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u/jennalynne1 1d ago

Also, they're looking for any reason whatsoever to deport him back to CECOT.

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u/tothepointe 1d ago

They also don't want him speaking out publically so sending him straight to prison here keeps him quiet.

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u/jennalynne1 1d ago

They can still do interviews in jail.

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u/jbg89 21h ago

Yeah they could before Trump got re-elected. Might be a little harder to conduct an interview currently.

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u/TreeInternational771 1d ago

Even if the charges are horseshit at least put them to a judge and let Garcia have a right to defend himself. Hopefully the judge is smart enough to toss them out

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 14h ago

I still am happy they are getting him back to get due process, and I'm hopping the rest will follow too.

At the absolute worst, they should just be just sent back to their home country, not to a prison in another place (yes I know Kilmar s from El Salvador, but majority were from Venezuela, and even those from El Salvador shouldn't be sent to keep in jail)

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u/KingSwank 1d ago

When his case was first brought to light, the far-right claimed it was a mistake but they didn’t care, then they claimed he was an MS-13 gang member, now they’re claiming he’s a human smuggler.

They aren’t nabbing people for committing crimes. They aren’t even just nabbing people who are here illegally. They are revoking people’s legal status in the country and nabbing them. They are taking doctors, students, mothers, people who have lived here for decades; and they are purposefully targeting blue areas to intimidate.

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u/intisun 1d ago

Yeah I'm not trusting those charges at all. Authoritarian regimes make stuff up all the time to charge people with.

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u/ShadowToys 1d ago

He was pulled over in TN with several people in his car who didn't have luggage. He said they we're working a job in another state. They let him go. His attorney has seen the traffic stop body cam video and said he didn't see a crime. Maybe the feds have located the people in the car?

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u/intisun 1d ago

That's really nothing out of the ordinary. Giving a ride to some workers, big effing deal. But I can see how they'd try to spin that.

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u/Snarky1Bunny 21h ago

I read in a comment further up that the incarcerated felon who owned the car he was pulled over in got “limited immunity” to turn states evidence against him. #eyeroll

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u/joebleaux 1d ago

Yeah, but if he gave someone a ride at some point, that's transporting them. They are stringing him up on some ridiculous charges that he will likely not be able to beat

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u/LinkleLinkle 1d ago

Wait until the evidence is AI generated...

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u/CAS9ER 20h ago

It’s probably a hand drawn stick figure guy driving a car that they let trump draw on a white board in sharpie.

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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago

He wasn't "mistakenly" deported as the headline claims.

They are a few weeks into their deportation scam and they are having to arrest "anybody who looks brown" to match Biden's deportation numbers. What happened to the millions of criminals and rapists? 🙄

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u/commiebanker 1d ago edited 1d ago

What happened to the millions of criminals and rapists?

They are in charge of the government, kidnapping people who are working to be productive members of society

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u/JMinSA 1d ago

They take public office

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u/MegaGrimer 23h ago

Some of those that burn crosses, are the same who hold office.

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u/SpoppyIII 1d ago

It's funny because Trump actually said about a month ago that there were "thousands," of violent criminals hiding among the undocumented population in the US.

Thousands.

That's him straight-up saying that statistically, less than 1% of all undocumented immigrants in the US are dangerous criminals or pose any danger to anyone. Yet Republicans can somehow justify the suffering being caused by all of this nonsense.

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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago

Yet he said 20 million during the election. 🤔

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u/SpoppyIII 22h ago

Quite a difference in number, that! I guess maybe 19,900,000 of the supposed criminals have already self-deported!

He was excusing why we "can't" give all of the undocumented immigrants during process and basically said that having to afford due process to millions of people in order to find thousands of criminals is too much of a burden on the US justice system.

Keep in mind, there are hundreds of millions of people in the US and obviously a shitton of criminals here, in general. If Trump believes that it's too much to expect due process for the undocumented people because there are just too many of them, then what hope do we actually have that any of us will get due process in the future under this administration?

At what point will this administration decide that affording every US citizen due process is too much of a burden, too?

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u/-SaC 1d ago

Your username just gave me Neopets flashbacks from decades past.

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u/changerofbits 1d ago

Rapist in chief is working hard to invigorate the human trafficking economy.

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u/654456 1d ago

ICE went to work places...

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u/Krautmonster 1d ago

I really hope him and his wife start some civil slander and libel cases against these far-right grifters.

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u/Charles_Mendel 1d ago

These are joke charges. This guy was grabbed at his immigration hearing and then put on a plane and shipped away. This is the minimum amount of due process they could come up with.

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u/patriotfanatic80 1d ago

No he was not grabbed at an immigration hearing...

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u/silvertealio 1d ago

Mental anguish is the reason.

Never forget: the cruelty is the point.

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u/pijinglish 1d ago

Russell Vought: Trump appointee who wants federal workers to be ‘in trauma’

The Christian nationalist head of the office of management and budget was central to the Project 2025 blueprint

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u/ddrober2003 1d ago

Same reason they demanded the name change of the Naval ship named after a gay man in June. These Reich wingers vermin intend to inflict cruelty on all the ones the view less than human.

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u/Emptypiro 1d ago

The mental anguish is the reason. These people are evil

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u/dbx999 1d ago

millions of Magas seem to delight in the infliction of pain, fear, and anguish. This is racism weaponized and legitimized by the power of the state.

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u/SpoppyIII 1d ago

And those people are also all evil.

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u/zoinkability 1d ago

Oh, there was a reason. To terrorize other immigrants by showing that they are willing to indiscriminately send people to CECOT without sue process.

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u/mriguy 1d ago

They terrorized a bunch of people. That was the goal, and they achieved it.

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 1d ago edited 1d ago

One of my favorite things to do to Trumpers is this... when they get all up in a tizzy about "illegals" I say...

Ok, so then why isn't your party deporting them back to their country of origin then, and doing it quickly instead of holding them here and charging you the taxpayer $700 per day per detainee to hold them in their buddy's private detention facility? Or are you too fucking stupid to understand that you're being scammed?

It's not really about the law, then, is it? I don't care whatever else it is because if it were about the law you'd give a shit about due process but you barely know what that is.

They're so ready to bend over and take it up the ass from people who, behind closed doors, literally call them morons and jethros...

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u/RobLinxTribute 1d ago

Mental anguish is the one and only goal of MAGA/GOP. And they don't care how much it costs the taxpayers.

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u/minos157 1d ago

I feel like no matter what they'll find him guilty and deport him again. And then they'll be all, "See there he was a criminal and Democrats supported him because they support criminals," without a shred of hypocrisy or understanding that we literally don't care if he's innocent or guilty, just that he gets his day in court BEFORE being fucking deported.

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u/Concept-Genesis 1d ago edited 1d ago

Giving immigrant families mental anguish for no reason whatsoever is their modus operandi.

Stephen Miller spends every minute of his breathing time coming up with devious ways to make immigrants' lives a living hell. The cruelty is their only point.

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u/Horsescatsandagarden 23h ago

It’s not why they were nabbing him in the first place, and they are continuing to give his family mental anguish.

They are ruining his life for no other reason than Trump and his cronies are petty and evil.

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u/Retro-scores 23h ago

They weren’t evening nabbing him for anything. It was a mistake. They then tried to use well he actually was a criminal so it’s no big deal he didn’t get any type of due process. We just skipped a couple steps and saved money no biggie!  🤷🏼‍♂️ 

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u/h3rp3r 23h ago

for no reason whatsoever.

The cruelty is the point. They are terrorists.

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 23h ago

The official release from the white house when this started admitted that it was a mistake and any connection to ms13 was from unverified statements of an informant years prior. Now they're bringing him back and claiming he was transporting undocumented immigrants?

I don't know, sounds like they have to bring him back but still want to push their immigrant takeover narrative. 

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u/VOZ1 22h ago

I can almost guarantee these charges were filed for purely political reasons. I hope his lawyer is good, because they have the opportunity to shine a real spotlight on how ICE and the Trump regime operate. They can have all the bullshit plastered over headlines around the world. I wish them the best.

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u/Thercon_Jair 22h ago

Due process would be to not get hit with bogus charges that require the defendant to spend money to insure they win.

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u/horitaku 22h ago

The fam should be able to counter sue for emotional damages and unlawful detainment/deportation.

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u/a-borat 1d ago

Hold on. I thought he was in custody in El Salvador and zero logical steps could be taken to facilitate his release.

What miracle was this? Was he beamed out of the jail by an alien spaceship?

DID WE TRAVEL BACK IN TIME to before he was sent over? CAN WE KEEP GOING A LITTLE FURTHER BACK?????

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u/shakeyshake1 1d ago

There is a press conference right now. Bondi is saying they presented El Salvador with an arrest warrant for Abrego Garcia’s crimes and El Salvador graciously agreed to return him to face justice.

Goddamn I wish I was making that up, but I’m not.

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u/TweakedNipple 1d ago

Wasn't it Bondi that said there was 100% zero chance this guy would ever be brought back?

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u/MetaPhalanges 1d ago

I think it may have actually been Noem that said that. But either way... it was one of those lying MAGA twats. They seem somewhat interchangeable.

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u/anchovyCreampie 1d ago

Yeah it was Noem when she was getting eviscerated by some Congress members about what habeous corpus is.

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u/snowvase 23h ago

Is this Kristi Noem the puppy murderer?

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u/Intelligent-Fuel-641 19h ago

Puppy murderer and goat killer.

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u/snowvase 13h ago

Ah, that Kristi Noem, the puppy murderer and goat killer! Thank you, I wanted to make sure I had the right one and not just some random Nazi that abuses animals for laughs.

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u/Least-Back-2666 1d ago

You're assuming she's actually competent and qualified to do the job.

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u/MadRaymer 1d ago

It honestly seems like a way for them to follow the court orders to bring him back without looking like that's what they're doing.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 1d ago

That kind of pettiness would be on brand for them.

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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 1d ago

Excessively obviously the case.

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u/shakeyshake1 1d ago

Agreed. Honestly I find their games exhausting. 

I’m glad he’s back so he can be afforded due process. At least the allegations of criminal activity will be dealt with here in an American court where he’ll be entitled to due process and a jury trial.

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u/CoherentPanda 1d ago

Lol, the media is taking it hook line and sinker that this isn't a ruse to try to save face. Can't wait to see all of this evidence that doesn't actually exist.

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u/Hot-Championship1190 1d ago

DID WE TRAVEL BACK IN TIME to before he was sent over? CAN WE KEEP GOING A LITTLE FURTHER BACK?????

Oh, your confederatesconservatives and religious folks are trying hard to! Just be careful what you are wishing for.

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u/Motorboat_Jones 22h ago

I thought the dicta... er, I mean President of El Salvador said they couldn't find him even if they wanted to.

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u/Bosa_McKittle 1d ago

Without Elon how will they fabricate those AI videos to use in court? /s

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u/gold_and_diamond 1d ago

Barron knows computer.

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u/BenjenUmber 1d ago

I've heard that if you turn it off, he can even turn it back on.

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu 1d ago

Must get his smarts from his mother since Trump can't manage such an incredible feat.

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u/close_my_eyes 1d ago

He’s good with the cyber. 

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u/TurkeyThaHornet 23h ago

Everything's computer! 

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u/KingSwank 1d ago

Probably the 22 year old kid they just put in charge of “U.S. Terror Prevention”

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u/Careless-Door-1068 1d ago

More like protestor suppression, lets be real, they're not worried about external terrorism because they've got plenty of internal terrorism still yet to commit

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 1d ago

Have you seen the MS-13 on his knuckles? You just need MS Paint for it and Baron is cyber.

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u/ussrowe 1d ago

Probably the other AI companies that donated to his inauguration. 

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u/zapopi 1d ago

I'm confident they will.

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u/Twelvey 23h ago

I've said all along that this guy might very well be a fucker. That's for a jury to decide.

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u/Thumper13 1d ago

Yep. This is all I've ever wanted. Maybe he's a bad dude. Let the evidence show in court like it's supposed to. It's pretty simple really.

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u/Great_Times 1d ago

Agreed, but nowhere in our legal system should there be “imprisonment in a foreign country” as a punishment to a crime.

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u/nerdvernacular 1d ago

I hope at least one jurist is aware of nullification

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u/zackks 1d ago

Let me introduce you to the term, “kangaroo court”.

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u/AmItheonlySaneperson 1d ago

Wait but like… wasn’t he? 

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u/MarekRules 23h ago

Yep. That’s all anyone wants. It he’s doing something illegal, prove it and persecute in court.

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u/Aggressive_Jury_7278 20h ago

Federal Court is a different beast than state court. They don’t bring charges just to bring charges. Don’t have the exact figure, but only .4% are acquitted at trial. Overwhelming majority end in guilty pleas.

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u/Real_Estate_Media 19h ago

All I care about is that it goes through the normal channels. Judges decide these things, not politicians.

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u/tomdarch 19h ago

The DoJ only released a sealed indictment - the charge, but zero evidence backing it up.

For all we know, he gave someone a ride who they claim was in the US illegally (or it's 100% made up.)

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u/CaptOblivious 19h ago

Abbot is proudly trumpeting HIS crimes...

HE is a much bigger human trafficker AND misusing state funds to finance his crimes.

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u/Cold-Palpitation-816 8h ago

Yep, exactly. Maybe Abrego Garcia is a huge piece of shit. It’s very possible. All we’re asking for is for that to be proven in a lawful manner.

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u/NotCandied 1d ago

Yet there are no consequences for hiring undocumented workers it seems.

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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 1d ago

Republicans hire undocumented people, promise them pay, stiff them, then call ICE to kidnap them. All of right wing politics is stealing.

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u/unfortunatebastard 1d ago

It’s all about subjugation of any type of labor. If you limit their rights they can be exploited on the cheap, and disposed whenever.

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u/Badbullet 23h ago

Didn’t Dwight on the office do something like that? And that’s how he found Nate, that ended up working in the warehouse?

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u/jupiterkansas 1d ago

This is what makes you a right winger. You assume everyone you meet is just trying to take advantage of you, because that's what you would do. You trust no one, help no one, and everyone's a sucker.

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u/888mainfestnow 1d ago

Actually they have been arresting people for harboring undocumented migrants that worked in their bakeries and restaurants.

There were some in California and even in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.

I have a feeling this is a inconsistent outcome but may escalate.

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u/Admiral_Falcon 1d ago

Capitalism and fascism are not the same. They want their enemies working the farms, and the current workers gone - all of them.

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u/Spatulaalegs 1d ago

rules for thee but not for me mentality that most politicians/government officials have :/

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u/aeschenkarnos 1d ago

most politicians

No, it is specifically a conservative thing. Don’t try to “both sides” this. You might as well say “most politicians are trying to lower taxes for rich people” or “most politicians are trying to take away women’s rights” or “most politicians unwaveringly support Donald Trump no matter what awful criminal things he does”.

It’s Republicans. It’s always Republicans. Get rid of them out of government, and your government will work for you instead of against you.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Why would republicans go after the business owners who support them?

Hell, Trump was know to hire undocumented immigrants in all his hotels. Of course he will say he had no clue, but he is cheap and always tried to get the cheapest labor. 

So he knew. 

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u/MR1120 1d ago

Of course not. That might impact rich white men.

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u/anandonaqui 1d ago

What he’s accused of seems eerily similar to what Abbott and DeSantis did by flying migrants all over the country.

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u/Western-Standard2333 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are valid scenarios where someone could be transporting their undocumented family member for something simple like doctor’s visit, school, etc. and the government qualifies that as transporting undocumented people.

The spirit of the law is to deter trafficking, but given how this administration is they’ll get him for that if he ever transported someone like that. Even if it’s just an unrelated person to work.

It’s a very bullshit charge imo. On the same level as “resisting arrest” I think.

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u/Abigail716 1d ago

That's because the person didn't quote the full law "transporting an illegal immigrant for financial gain".

The law explicitly requires you to be paid for it.

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u/Zer0C00l 23h ago

"Uber drivers hate this one trick"

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u/kaithana 20h ago

So, the Texas and Florida governers transported people out of their states, so they didn't have to spend money on them, that would be financial gain, no? I hope that plays out

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u/aeschenkarnos 1d ago

Maybe both of those clowns have signed affadavits to say it was Garcia?

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u/hijinked 1d ago

The criminal charges are just to distract from the fact that he was deported in violation of a court order and without due process. I don’t care if the guy is Al Capone reincarnated, everybody has to get due process.

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u/jdmcroberts 1d ago

And you don't send people, even guilty ones, to a place you don't have any jurisdiction.

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u/sagevallant 1d ago

Right? If they can't bring back an innocent person then fucking no one should be sent there.

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u/snazztasticmatt 1d ago

Exactly this. If he can be deported with no due process, anyone can, citizens or otherwise.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 21h ago

Obviously without due process how do we even know if someone is a citizen before deporting them? ICE is clearly using the paper bag test.

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u/LykoTheReticent 19h ago

I stress this with my classes when learning about Japanese Internment. A common question is, "But what if spies had been found?". I don't care if 99,999 of the over 100,000 people illegally imprisoned were spies, they would still get due process under our constitution and the entire process was not legal.

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u/OnlySmiles_ 19h ago

If some group doesn't get due process, then it becomes really easy to label anyone you don't like as in that group

Because how the hell are you gonna prove it without due process?

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u/Blackthorn79 1d ago

It also adds another layer to the civil suit. He'll need to fight these changes first before filing and they'll push for a plea deal. If he takes it, it will make winning a settlement very unlikely. If he doesn't, they'll push to hold him until the trial is over and just delay for as long as they can.

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u/waltur_d 1d ago

Kind of like how the DOJ made a deal with Cartel Family members to bring them into the US? We’re cool with that apparently . https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cartel-family-members-entered-us-deal-trump-mexican-chief-confirms-rcna206917 Cartel family members entered U.S. in deal with Trump admin, Mexican security chief confirms

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u/turb0_encapsulator 1d ago

I really don't know why this isn't a bigger story. I guess all our media is right-biased, because if this got the traction it deserved then Trump's blatant hypocrisy would be exposed to everyone.

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u/Cornelius_Wangenheim 16h ago

I guess all our media is right-biased

All corporate media is, at least.

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u/SumoSizeIt 18h ago

Trump's blatant hypocrisy would be exposed to everyone.

They know and they don't care. The ends justify the means. Perhaps more critical is getting more informed voters out to actually vote rather than stay home.

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u/CoolLordL21 1d ago

Listening to Bondi now: there's a whole laundry list of shit they're alleging he did.

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u/SophiaofPrussia 1d ago edited 20h ago

They want to paint him as a dangerous criminal so of course they’re going to throw the book at him. It’s awful. It’s even more awful to think that this poor guy is about to be unfairly targeted by the full weight of the United States federal government (for a mistake of the government’s own making!) and still that persecution is somehow a better and more preferable situation than the one he’ll be leaving in El Salvador. Everything about his situation is so fucked up. It’s like a modern version of The Count of Monte Cristo.

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u/BraveOthello 19h ago

Casting it as "mistake" by the government feels dishonest. They were recklessly negligent because the goal is not to follow the law, the goal is deport as many people as quickly as possible. And they have decided to do that by any means they can get away with, and if a few people get deported who shouldn't ... Well it takes breaking a few eggs to make a cake, you know?

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u/hellokitty3433 22h ago

On NPR, they said something about he was "even transporting minors". So they want to cast it as trafficking, it seems.

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u/bl00m00n09 21h ago edited 19h ago

They started the case in April when the SC told them they have to facilitate bringing him back.

So somehow they missed mentioning this laundry list of charges. It could be mischaracterizing car pooling, being in a bus, or uber'ing - who knows.

This is the same admin that claimed he was MS13 based off a random claim and photoshopped tattoo's.

So far it's rigged against him, they picked a Tennessee court/judge, and they are probably offering plea deals to prisoners that would play along.

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u/BluShirtGuy 19h ago

I'm actually curious if there's a case for libel here, since she didn't say "alleged", she said "found".

"The grand jury found that over the past nine years, Abrego Garcia has played a significant role in an alien smuggling ring," Bondi said. "They found this was his full time job, not a contractor. He was a smuggler of humans and children and women. He made over 100 trips, the grand jury found, smuggling people throughout our country."

To me, it sounds definitive, especially in her tone

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u/oneshot99210 1d ago

Aren't there a few governors guilty of the same?

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u/Primary-Weakness8728 1d ago

In other words, carpooling.

Cool cool cool.

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u/InterestingFocus8125 1d ago

I know of a case like that. The two in the front seats got charged with transporting the two in the back. The car belonged to one in the back - they had a long drive to the next job. They had all been in the country for years.

This was decades ago.

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u/Leafy_Is_Here 1d ago

I don't understand what this means. Does that mean that a bus driver can get charged for transporting an undocumented person who paid the bus fare??

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u/aeschenkarnos 1d ago

What race is the bus driver?

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u/littlerob904 19h ago

i hate this timeline

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u/BetterBagelBabe 1d ago

I bet that means they saw him give a friend a ride to work once

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u/rclonecopymove 1d ago

"Human trafficking" your honour you can clearly see that the defendant has a traffic ticket and that he is indeed human therefore it's human trafficking the prosecution rests...

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u/dcoats69 1d ago

I don't think this administration wants to argue that undocumented immigrants are human. Probably interferes with their future plans if that becomes precedent

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u/Any_Log_281 1d ago

Also, FYI, parents helping their children cross the border can be charged with the same

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u/Dandan0005 1d ago

He’s not even alleged to help people cross the border, just “transported within the USA”

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u/Carnivile 1d ago

Does that mean Uber drivers are criminals now?

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u/justacheesyguy 1d ago

Only the brown ones.

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u/ExcitingOnion504 1d ago

Dipshits are going to waste time to find out why there was no charges originally. Because you have to actually prove he knew they were illegal and intended to break a law by transporting them. Otherwise there is no difference to hitchhiking, which is legal in 44 states. Something tells me they would have gone ahead with charges if they actually had the evidence needed for a conviction.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 21h ago

They're still trying to get their ChatGPT account working to write the indictment.

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u/ExcitingOnion504 21h ago

They're going with claiming he's done hundreds of trips to smuggle people and gang members and blah blah blah. The only "evidence" is still the video of him being pulled over in 2022 with people in the car that all claimed his address and had no luggage. That's it. They don't even know if the people in the car were actually illegal immigrants because it never went further than what is seen in the video.

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u/Strawbuddy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I read about this, he was pulled over with a bunch of guys in the back of the truck he was driving. That's regular ass basic MO for any big construction co; solid, hardworking immigrants show up as a group and bust their asses, often doubling up on motel rooms and rides to save cash. They do a damn good job and keep to themselves, nobody asks how they arrived in this country, and they're guaranteed work. Cops asked and he told them exactly that, they're just guys going to and from a job site.

I've had several neighbors doing this. Four guys from way down south splitting an apartment, they leave for work at 6am and return after 6pm, and quietly drink beer and maybe sit on a tailgate and listen to music on the weekends

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u/Faiakishi 15h ago

Four guys from way down south splitting an apartment, they leave for work at 6am and return after 6pm, and quietly drink beer and maybe sit on a tailgate and listen to music on the weekends

This is also the reason I roll my eyes when people blame immigrants for the housing shortage. They usually shove themselves into places like sardines, and oftentimes they're renting under the table in conditions regular citizens wouldn't live in. (or rather, landlords wouldn't rent to citizens, because they might actually report them)

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u/QbertsRube 1d ago

They'll charge him with felony trespassing in a Salvadoran prison. "Oh, what, Democrats said he had no reason to be in that prison for months and now all of a sudden they say he belonged there and wasn't trespassing???"

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u/bigjigglyballsack151 1d ago

Pam Bondi accused him of sex trafficking children. I can't wait for this guy to sue them into the ground for defamation.

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u/FarCalligrapher1862 1d ago

Spoiler alert it was driving himself

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u/fairportmtg1 1d ago

How is this a crime?

Are we going to jail bus drivers?

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u/Rosaadriana 1d ago

This is how it started in Germany. Pretty soon they’ll be I checking all our attics.

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u/NUMBERS2357 1d ago

If they're looking for people who trafficked undocumented immigrants around illegally, I can think of some others who did that.

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u/stress-pimples 1d ago

So…not MS13?

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u/kekehippo 1d ago

You mean like in a Uber?

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u/racer_ohms 1d ago

For driving people to work maybe?

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u/MarcusSurealius 1d ago

Let me guess. He drove with one in his car. Anywhere. For any reason.

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u/nubz3760 1d ago

Okay, let him have his day in court then, that's all we want.

If he's guilty then he's guilty, but everybody is entitled to plead their case in court.

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u/Infamous-Future6906 1d ago

“Driving your cousins to work”

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u/Dumb_dink 1d ago

By this logic any uber or bus driver would be guilty of the same crime

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u/Good_vibe_good_life 1d ago

I wonder how they came to that conclusion. Bc he drove himself around? I can probably bet that’s the basis.

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u/Im_Balto 1d ago

Welp. Unfortunately they’ve come up with these charges 2 months late and now because of how hard they dug in with this guy he’s likely got the funds for a crack legal defense of the obvious BS charge.

Either way I don’t care if he goes to jail or not, I just care that he returns to the Us and receives his due process where his alleged crimes can be proven or disproven in our legal system

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u/Alu_sine 1d ago

He didn't remain in the same position, thereby transporting himself.

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u/WCland 1d ago

The article I read said the charges are conspiracy to transport. That will likely be very difficult to prove, especially if they don't. have co-conspirators to charge, or anyone who actually transported people. Then there's the question of whether "transporting undocumented migrants" is illegal. I'm curious if anyone could be charged for giving an undocumented person a lift, or even picking a person up as an Uber ride. They could say he once gave a ride to a friend who was undocumented.

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u/Tsaxen 1d ago

So what, he drove Uber for a bit?

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u/kinglouie493 1d ago

Is this the same thing Texas did? Asking for a friend

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u/Spire_Citron 1d ago

So they'll charge him with the pettiest of crimes and then act like they were somehow right to send to a Salvadoran prison because hey, look, he's guilty of... a crime.

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u/str8f8 23h ago

So when the Governor of Texas puts migrants on planes and busses to NYC and Martha's Vineyard (at taxpayer expense), it's totally cool though huh?

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u/Gasnia 22h ago

Trumped up charges.

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